This is the Video which was shown to Africa Union by PNU’s Pro-Impunity advocates led by Kalonzo Musyoka to argue for AU help with respect to the Ocampo Six.
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This is the Video which was shown to Africa Union by PNU’s Pro-Impunity advocates led by Kalonzo Musyoka to argue for AU help with respect to the Ocampo Six.
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This is appalling. To turn around and say we can fix things after rejecting initial attempts at a domestic process! To blame Ocampo and the ICC after names of suspects have been released?! Clearly the individual behind this post is up to mischief. The colourful pictures of Uhuru Kenyatta preaching peace betray your allegiance. And the white guy you hired to trash the ICC adds no credence to your outrageous premise! Just say what you really want to say: Uhuru for 2012? Excuse me, I need to vomit!
Listen to Uhuru Kenyatta lying on Hardtalk:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImreW9AHm3g&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HUccQspubI&feature=related
The PNU group can do all they think they are right, but they forget to know that those people who were displaced and lost whatever they had and have never been considered as Kenyans and some of their loved ones have died or killed, One day one of their Sons or Daughters will remember something and ask them questions. We don’t know what the questions will be.
Those leaders who are advocating not to go to Hague are blind leaders who can not know what the to-morrow they are hoping for will bring. Some of them think when they have billions of Shillings,then they can dominate the poor people for ever. That is the blindness they have. The poor people will teach them a lesson one day. Many of them will die in exile without any single cent.Mtego ambao wanategea wengine utawashika hao wenyewe.Ya Mungu nimengi! Many of our MPs will not see any Parliament in their life again. Let them prepare for 2012 of which they will be gone.Otherwise let Ocampo do his work. If a fool can say that they will solve their problems themselves because of new Court.It means we had no Courts since Independence?
Just play with fire.
Uhuru is a Jackass>read and have a look at this young madboy>http://jukwaa.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=4937
The AU is a club of old wasted dictators not ready to change Africa. Kalonzo Musyoka aka Mr 8% has wated the Kenyan taxpayer’s money on his shuttle diplomacy for the ICC cases deferral. Who had factored the wasted Ksh 31 million in the current budget? None I believe. Mostly likely this was picked from another kitty, yet IDPs are still suffering in the camps, and many Kenyans are starving due to drought.
The Obama administration will block any attempts to halt trials of post-election violence masterminds at The Hague, a decision which means government efforts to get the process deferred at the UN are almost certainly doomed to failure.
Outgoing US ambassador Michael Ranneberger told the Sunday Nation Washington would not back any delay of ICC action.
“The American position is that we want the ICC process to proceed expeditiously. We do not want to see the process delayed. We think that carrying through with the trials is absolutely crucial to fighting impunity and to ensuring accountability.”
The US holds veto power in the Security Council and a rejection of the petition by any one of the five permanent members of the Council means the appeal would stand defeated. Highly placed diplomatic sources also indicated that Britain and France were unlikely to support the Kenya bid for deferral.
http://www.nation.co.ke/News/politics/Envoy%20US%20will%20veto%20deferral%20of%20Kenyan%20ICC%20case%20/-/1064/1106494/-/of3ckhz/-/index.html#commentsAnchor
Listen to Uhuru Kenyatta speaking Kikuyu language.This has beocome a habit just like his father used to do when he was pushing tribal agendas.A national leader should stick to Kiswahili or English while addressing Kenyans in public like Kibaki does.
Mr Christian Wenaweser, president of the Assembly of State Parties to the Rome Statute, visited Nairobi as a divided government prepared to send a strong delegation to the African Union Summit in Addis Ababa to rally the continent behind its bid to have the case deferred by the United Nations Security Council.
Mr Wenaweser laid down the conditions to be met before Kenya can approach the ICC for the case to be postponed.
He said there was no need for the government to rally support of African leaders or approach the UN Security Council to pass a resolution that would defer the case.
“My message is that if the intent is to establish national proceedings in Kenya that is something that we would support.
“But in order to do that we would like to see the Kenyan government engage with the court. This is something that can be discussed with the court and so there is no need to go to the security council of the United Nations,” he said.
He said Kenya stands a better chance to have the cases against the six deferred if it approaches the ICC directly, he said. (Read: ICC cautions AU over Kenya bid to defer trials)
“If the government intends to pursue the avenue of setting up a national tribunal, it should be taken directly with the ICC. I hope this is the avenue the government will pursue,” he said
And before it enters into negotiations with the ICC, he said, Kenya must first establish a local tribunal that has the ability and capacity to try the suspects.
“Once it has established a local judicial mechanism, Kenya can then argue and plead its case within the framework of the ICC,”
Kenya is signtory of the Rome Statute hence there is no way ICC will be hindered from prosecuting the pepertrators of the post election violence. I remember very well Louis Moreno Ocampo saying that the post election violence case is already with the ICC hence even if Kenya pulls out and forms a local tribunal, it will only help solve the future cases.
We’re in the 21st century not in the Fuata Nyayo era. Kenyans know what they want, JUSTICE. If justice is not seen to be done here expect real pressure from peace loving Kenyans. The new Tsunami is already in Egypt coming down the Nile via The Sudan and finally to Kenya. Let’s make Kenya a land of no impunity…home sweet Kenya.
MPs rejected Gitobu Imanyara’s Bill to allow the set up of a local tribunal for the PEV perpetrators in September 2009. Am surprised that after Ocampo mentioned the SIX is when they saw the light and now claim the ICC is a useless court. Why do these MPs take us for a ride? They are the masters of impunity.
Justice Minister Kilonzo was also against the Bill claiming it would interfere with the Attorney General’s Office. Why is he now opposing his friends who want a local tribunal?
Imenti Central MP Gitobu Imanyara has vowed to continue pushing for the establishment of a local tribunal to try post-election violence suspects.
He said this was despite the government failure to meet a September 30 deadline given by International Criminal Court.
Mr Imanyara further challenged the government to rally its 101 Cabinet ministers and their assistants behind his bill if it was serious on the local trials.
Speaking to the Nation by phone, Mr Imanyara said: “The ball is now in government’s court. It should show support to the bill as it has been telling the international community it is for local trials.”
Despite his push, Mr Imanyara said, the International Criminal Court should still move in and act on perpetrators of the violence that left at least 1,300 people killed and 600,000 displaced.
He said unlike the ICC, which shall only act on a small number of people, his bill first responsibility is compensation of victims “and there are more victims than perpetrators.”
He said there’s no contradiction between the tribunal he is spearheading and the ICC as his bill also calls for people in the envelope handed over to chief prosecutor Luis Moreno-Ocampo be tried in the Hague.
“The two tribunals (that proposed by Mr Imanyara and the ICC) complement each other,” Mr Imanyara, said.
Mr Imanyara challenged Justice, National Cohesion and Constitutional Affairs minister Mutula Kilonzo to state publicly the government stand on fresh efforts for formation of a local tribunal.
But on Tuesday, the minister punched holes into the bill saying it does not protect the tribunal from interference from the Attorney General’s office and other quarters.
“It does not meet international standards,” the minister said.
Shuttle Diplomacy will never help the Ocampo Six because the UN Security Council will never allow a deferral of their cases:
A European diplomat has said Kenya’s campaign to delay trials of suspected post-election violence masterminds at The Hague may prove futile.
Ms Laetitia van den Assum, the Dutch ambassador to Kenya, says it would be “considerably difficult” for Kenya to demonstrate that if allowed to continue, the trials would be a threat to national peace and security.
She pointed out that majority of opinion polls have shown that most Kenyans were in favour of the trials.
“The UN Security Council may not seriously consider the request because apparently it is not a government position. One of the coalition leaders has distanced himself from the effort,” Ms Laetitia, told the Nation in her office Tuesday.
Instead, she advised Kenya to set up a credible judicial mechanism and then ask the International Criminal Court to return jurisdiction of the cases.
Vice-President Kalonzo Musyoka and a number of ministers have spent the past few weeks shuttling around the continent to seek support for Kenya’s bid to stop the trial of six suspects at The Hague.
The African Union has already endorsed the decision and the UN Security Council is expected to make a determination on the matter.
But the envoy cautioned that the campaign may not shield the politicians named in connection with the post-election violence because the ICC prosecutor follows credible evidence.
“He has no regard for individuals and is determined to achieve justice for the victims of the violence.”
http://www.nation.co.ke/News/politics/Kenya+faces+tall+order+to+defer+trials+/-/1064/1108106/-/47nxoo/-/index.html
Kibaki is spending so much money meeting Kenyan diplomats like Purity and others to discuss with them the Ocampo Six deferral, yet the Security Council members have made it clear they will NEVER support him. So who is the fool? Kibaki is not concerned with the IDPs who are mainly his Kikuyu people.
The United Kingdom will not vote for Kenya’s appeal to the United Nations Security Council to defer the trial of the ‘Ocampo Six’ at The Hague.
British High Commissioner to Kenya, Rob Macaire, said instead of going through the African Union and now via the Security Council, Kenya should have directly lobbied the International Criminal Court (ICC) to defer the cases.
Mr Macaire said: “The UN Security Council is mandated to ensure and maintain international peace and security. The Rome Statute, under which the ICC is established, stands for the same. Britain supports the court’s activities to ensure there is justice internationally.”
He added: “For this matter, I do not expect my country to support any effort that will override the international court. Any move in that direction would mean we are interfering with the freedom of the court.”
Britain is the second permanent member of the Security Council to declare opposition to Kenya’s efforts after the US.
There are five permanent members of the council with veto power including Russia, China and France.
Macaire said: “Political leaders should shun politics of self-interest and espouse patriotism. If the Constitution is not implemented on time, and come 2012, we may witness a repeat of what happened in 2007.”
http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/InsidePage.php?id=2000029223&cid=4&ttl=UK won’t support Kenya’s quest