A paperless Kenyan chick who was balooned by a Kenyan national is reported to be confused and in a state of panic because friends of the Kenyan ballooner
have put her under pressure to conduct an abortion. She says that she cannot take such an action because she is a Christian but the problem now is that buddies of the bull have threatened to report her to police so that she can be deported to Kenya. Friends of the bull believe that if she is deported, the problem will be solved.
The girl has no good advisors, alone, ignorant about the rules while her pregnancy has put her under enormous stress. Friends of the bull are very unhappy that the story has hit KSB and they are reported to have blamed her for having leaked the story. The truth is that the story was picked up by an agent who operates in a Network close to the Kenyan who has ballooned her and we can report that she has nothing to do with the report.
Watu Wengine who have spoken to her say that because of pressure, she is on the verge of changing her mind to conduct an abortion but the concern of those who are sounding the alarm is that she is contemplating swallowing pain killers to induce a kinda back-street abortion, an act which may lead to her loosing her life.
She is not receiving any proper help from anybody while she is also reported to be afraid of being deported in case she is reported to police. The fear is that in case she is turned in by the balooner’s friends, she will arrive in Kenya pregnant and she cannot imagine life in Kenya as a single mother because she has no resources.
In another twist of the story, an agent who is working on the case say that she had been working for the Kenyan bull as a child minder but with time, the situation began to change as she increasingly began to cool down the guy’s manyege.
Those who are raising the alarm are afraid that something bad may happen to her because the bull is also not happy that the story is being consumed by KS-beers. A contact told KSB that Kenyans should not say that they were never warned if this lady meets a tragic end. Juliet Kavinga was in a similar situation and she ended up paying with her life after she was allegedly shot by her Swedish boyfriend who was freed by the courts. The lady is reported to be reading KSB and readers have also been requested to post any useful tips that could help her.
“We should call a meeting to discuss how this lady can be helped because despite her good education, she is currently emotionally vulnerable and she needs good people to advise her”, the contact told KSB. The lady is reported to be a university graduate.
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I may sound rude but the pregnant lady is STUPID. She should have kept quiet about her pregnancy until it was mature to avoid deported. No man wants to pay child support for 18 years due to an unplanned pregnancy. I blame the woman who did not read the signs on the wall. Now she must be smart to come up with a better solution.
Many prominent men have been involved with house helps and babysitters and some even interns like the case of former President Clinton of USA. In this case the Stockholm Specialist is in a quandry and his friends say he is impatient but should just ease up the tension and accept the reality. He ate goodies without protection so this is it.
I wonder who is this kenyan who went to a paperless without protection.is this story the same with the “veterani one” or its a new case? dnt be so harsh on this girl cause we dont know what she was promised by the guy. I do hope the guy will come out and explain things. I would advise kenyans to be carefull when we attack each other when bedroom issues are concerned. remember the two are adults, dnt laugh at them, cause tomorrow you might be in a bigger propblem
KSB: Well said and very mature contribution. The lady is not the veterani case so you can relax.
After reading the whole story, lam hoping the girl will read readers comments.The thing is, u can’t be forced to have an abortion in sweden if u don’t want, whether u have mapaper or not.Secondly,whichever way she got pregnant, the dude knew the risk was there otherwise we would not be discussing this story here at ksb.My advice to the lady is, in sweden, they don’t perform abotion after four months.If the father has the permit, u can’t be deported so, those are just empty threats which u have the right to make charges to anybody calling, u and TELLING u have to do this otherwise u will be deported.Have ur baby, go to the hospital and explain the whole thing.U will get permit coz of ur baby, NOT THE DUDE.We dude nawewe, kwanini unatembea ovyo,ovyo? This time ume- mshoot ball, next time utapata nini? HIV? WACHA UMALAYA WA HELA MBILI.Mtoto atazaliwa na incase huyo dame akipata any accident, du kommer vara farbror polisen first suspect. So, the chick should not be intimidated by anyone (FRIENDS)HAVE UR BABY.By the way, here in SWEDEN……THE CHILD COMES FIRST, THE WOMAN SECOND, THE DOG THIRD, THE MEN 4.That’s a fact….
KSB: Very taff in deed for the men here!
No matter what the dude can still pay for child support.
The baby is innocent in this mess. Give it a chance to live and as for the woman. You can start again. What happened has happened. Forgive this man, forigive yourself, learn what you can about the laws in Sweden. The previous comment seems to offer a lot of insight. And I am sure you will find some help and be on your feet, caring for your baby and living your life. Everyday is a brand new day, don’t give up, be strong and you will come out on top. Leave the guy alone. What goes around, comes around. Take courage in all of this. It’s not the end.., only the beginning for something new and better. Have an optimistic day…:)
Grace: The man comes 4th after donating his sperms otherwise at the initial stage, the woman so desperately looks for him for her security. Damn USERS!!! U r the type that misuse the Swedish system to frustrate men. Worse that Swedish women. Kenyan men, beware of such women!
Wewe ajabu,it takes two to tangle.The were both involved and maybe the man desired it more than the girl,so usijaribu kutumia Kenya style.Infact this is one thing women should make a campaign on,child-support in Kenya.Just like prostitution in Sweden the men are equally involved.
@Ajabu…lam just stating the way swedish system works. lam
giving advice coz l don’t believe in abortion or people to threaten,others.I actually don’t know if the dude is married or not(Bw.Osewe? didn’t mention that) if he’s married, l think the chick is being a hipocrite too coz she said she cant have an abortion coz she’s a christian.It not about using anybody and let me enlighten u, l always fight for justice.So, ajabu, if u r one of the dudes friends threatning the woman, l would tell u to stop IT coz u don’t have any right to do that.A CHILD IS A BLESSING…..FULL STOP.If the woman want my help, no problem. l can help anyone, man, woman… its just giving the right information.Its not about frustrating men OK AJABU!…..iam out of here….
@Grace: Osewe has provided this forum for venting after long hours of daily struggle, and you have the right to put your thoughts as you wish. However, most of those debating here do try to maintain sobriety in their approach to matters. It is therefore distasteful that you could mention that men come 4th in the so-called Swedish family set-up. Believe me, you are so wrong and any Swedish man would be angered by this categorization.
You don’t have to believe in everything Swedish, because some of those things remain superficial and are not applicable to most men. Politically, how come this “equal society” has never allowed a woman to be Prime Minister? Mona Sahlin MIGHT not even be the next leader. Liberia is better off comparatively, with a female president. Rwanda has more women in Parliament than Sweden. Also, Sweden is NOT a ‘woman’s society’, and the top Swedish management jobs prove that. Male CEOs rake thousands of kroner way ahead of fellow women. Your gender category might apply to the desperate, lowly, homeless male Swedes or immigrants in a similar situation. Don’t think that since the Swedish men help their women to change diapers and clean at home, then they are of low category in ranking. Stop being simplistic!
If the paperless woman opened her legs for the Kenyan man to inject sperms inside her womb, then she is equally responsible for the outcome. No man wants to pay child upkeep for 18 years without planning.
For your information, Christians also abort, so I wonder why you generalize the notion. It is therefore inconsequential for you to come here ‘screaming’ (considering your wording) about pro-life. If the guy does not want to take responsibility for the pregnancy, then come Elnino or Tsunami, he can say NO and the woman would simply find herself in Kenya. A paperless, pregnant Kenyan woman was once escorted by police and a Swedish nurse all the way to JKIA in Nairobi, never to return, yet she was five months pregnant.
Rules keep changing in Sweden and each case is considered individually. Therefore, when you come to KSB thinking that a pregnant paperless woman has equal rights as one with papers, then you need to do some homework.
The late Juliet Kavinga’s case is an extreme example which even in death, was never resolved to bring justice upon her tragic demise. Remember, this is within the same Sweden you purport to be egalitarian, and full of defense for women. Take your time to dig information first before you toy around with words here. Other than commenting on KSB, you will NEVER be able to help the paperless lady, and the man holds all the cards, especially at this vulnerable moment. Many Kenya-Stockholmers are good at exuding emotions but when challenged to act, they run for cover until matters have been resolved.
If the man decides to deport the woman on grounds that he is not supporting her pregnancy, then she will go. If I were you, I would tone down the rhetoric and be more realistic. I can give you more examples of Kenyan women who have survived by the grace of God and through sensitizing the men in question during their pregnancies, other than mere agitation.
Anna Anka, the Hollywood-based Swedish woman married to the famous American singer Paul Anka, gives and interesting perspective concerning the Swedish society.
I guess Grace (#9 above) needs to read and get another picture of this society, which she so cherises because it deems men as underdogs. Note Anna Anka’s rejection of Swedish “Jantelagen” (the Jante land). Read on:
“In Sweden it is acceptable to let yourself go, as long as you get your man. I feel sorry for Swedish men who marry beautiful women who then quickly become unattractive, dress sloppily and neglect their husband’s needs,” Anna Anka writes on opinion website Newsmill.
She continues to direct criticism at Sweden in general, and Swedish men in particular, hailing her adopted home of the USA as a place were “men are men, and women are women”.
“Swedish dads are tragic with all their nappy-changing and equality. A real American man panics if he is alone with a child for more than 20 minutes. American dads do not prepare dinner and do not iron, they work and provide for their families.”
Anka concludes by reiterating her hope that she can be a role model for Swedish women and encourages them to break away from “Jante land” (referring to the unwritten Jante Law which discourages delusions of grandeur).
http://www.thelocal.se/22132/20090917/
l don’t need to read crap from u AJABU.l said, and lam going to repeat it again,she can’t be forced to abort here in sweden.Bw.Osewe,if u have the woman contacts pls, TELL HER TO WRITE A MAIL TO ME AND I WILL GIVE HER MY PHONE NUMBER AND YES ajabu, do u really want to see how it works in sweden? By next year,hoping the lady gets a healthy pregnancy, she will have a BOUNCING BABY HERE IN S.W.E.D.E. N.Then hopefully u can come back here and look for this post.
Ndinda….let me ask u how old is paul anki? Read that woman story before you come here to talk about nothing….PEACE…lam out of here.
By the way, are u the dude who balloned her ajabu? When it comes to the wellfare of the kids, believe u me, no matter what the guys says, whereby the whole thing will be word against word, he will lose.Did u say he can deport her? let me tell u, he used a paperless girl for sexual purposes and definetly he promised her thing…..if u want to know more about the number four! Go to a place full of swedish men and ask them who comes first, ask them law? Ask them what normally happens…..so, ajabu aka shocker…do ur HOMEWORK.MARK MY WORDS, WHEN THIS LADY GETS MY CONTACTS,I WILL HELP HER ANY WAY I CAN , ALL THE WAY BABY….
Grace, that is what I wanted: to see whether you can drop the rhetoric and stick to issues. You have proved so far that you cannot, and the best you have exhibited so far is emotions, claiming that men are 4th after dogs in Sweden and that you don’t need to read crap from me, etc..
I have read the post by ndinda citing Anna Anka, which focuses on habits within the Swedish society. However, because that is also too much for you to fathom, given that you are led by emotions, you have picked on Paul Anka’s age without countering the weaknesses presented by Anna, who is critical of her society. You, the African, glorifies everything Swedish without objectivity.
Mark my word, the Kenyan man has a 100% role in letting the woman use her pregnancy for papers, even if she does not abort. Nothing is automatic when a paperless woman is pregnant in Sweden, so stop chest-thumping.
Grace, keep on rolling in the hay. That’s my last line for you.
OlOLOLOiii! ajabu, no problem. u seem to be angered by the number 4 thing………well the swedish men knows that they are number four……relax brother….if being number 4 is not good for u, just say…JAMHURI? HERE l come….
This also a lesson to girls coming here and looking for men and sleeping with every dick, tom and harry, THINK TWICE BEFORE U END UP IN SOMEONES BED….
Yes Grace,you are wonderful,Bw.Osewe give the chick Graces namba.Late Juliet missed this kind of info,hope this chick will get the road to the better.Infact she can talk with försäkring kassa or send a friend or read in their website and she will find out , no matter where she will be she can get child support from ths dude.It happens.
WE ARE AT WAR MEN!!!!!!!
Ajabu you sound very suspicious, are you the kenyan bull responsible for this situation? Take your responsibility man, you never know this unborn child of yours could be Sweden’s future president.
Grace and dame, KSB exchanges will not help the paperless woman. Instead of declaring an imaginative war with men, walk the talk by providing necessary help to the woman. There are many channels to be followed for her to be secure until she delivers the baby. Exchanges and shadow-boxing at KSB will only aggravate the already grave situation. Meanwhile, life goes on as she languishes in psychological torture. I don’t see why you take the comments at KSB seriously because they remain at the cyber level. Go and act in real life for her sake.
Bizarre: Stop being Bizarre like your name. KSB is a place for releasing tension, so stick to the topic and don’t get personal. The woman has to sweat it out if she wants papers. She will get them, but not easily. There is no free lunch in Sweden.
Grace: A person with schizotypal personality disorder has odd behaviors and thoughts that would typically be viewed by others as eccentric, erratic, and bizarre. They are known on occasion to have brief periods of psychotic episodes. Their speech, while coherent, is marked by a focus on trivial detail. Thought processes of schizotypals include magical thinking, suspiciousness, and illusions. These thought patterns are believed to be the schizotypal’s unconscious way of coping with social anxiety. To some extent, these behaviors stem from being socially isolated and having a distorted view of appropriate interpersonal relations.
A seven month pregnant woman, on crutches from a broken leg, is among the many Nigerian asylum seekers so far rounded up from all over Ireland and taken to Dublin airport in a major deportation operation which commenced this morning.
http://www.indymedia.ie/article/92951
Grace and dame: Why sweat at KSB exchanging words instead of interpreting the Swedish Law regarding a fetus gestation period which protects a paperless woman from deportation? Spend time assisting the woman by looking for legal channels allowed by Swedish authorities instead of screaming with BOLD words in cyberspace. This will be more helpful to her during this trying moment. Have you checked whether the man who impregnated her is a Swedish citizen or still maintains his Kenyan passport? What are the implications?
Such investigations would be more beneficial than the drama of who is ranked how in the Swedish family ladder. Who cares whether it is a dog or a rat? This is in your twisted imagination. When it comes to the deportation of a paperless pregnant woman, this has happened both here and in the European Union, so look for solutions outside, instead of these endless cyber wars.
..hope there is “no free lunch” for the bull too….at least he can feel the pain too
To the Kenyan bull who impregnated the paperless woman, rules in Sweden say:
“Abortion on demand is permitted up to 18 weeks; after 12 weeks, the woman must “discuss the abortion with a social worker.”
My point exactly….kenyan women only know the language of U Malaya then think desent people should feel sorry for them. fuck them
Kuna maajabu! here we are trying to sympathize with a paperless ballooned gal only to be sucked in to wars against men. Grace, u seem to neglect the main issue and get almost personal, mmh i wonder why? make the bull see the red light and the papers are gone! all he has to do is report her for using him for papers, false pretence. u see, in this kind of a situation anyone of them could have been used by the other. come first, first served, if the dude (cool!) has mapepee he holds the cards as ajabu is telling u. twist it however, sweden comes first, immigrants third and immigrants without mapepee fourth, abortion or no abortion.nothing in between. your embracement of the Swedish ladder only underlines how naive you are. give life a chance, u will learn something.
#26 and #27 and am glad you have added sense to this thread because Grace seems to be delusional and thinks that a paperless woman has any say in this country. She is bloody ignorant and exposes her stupididty in grasping reality. All the man needs is send her back to Kenya on the next plane and she would be there in max 10 hours. I hate it when some of our women pick on the worst things in the Swedish society imagining that we Kenyan men are just tools to be used and tossed simply because they think this society favors them. Nugu sana huyu Grace!
Feminine…woman! u seem to be so in . So, why don’t u help the lady.
ajabu…why don’t u ping with ur real name? Ati nugu? l don’t have time with the likes of you…you are just a little piece of garbage…moron.
Grace, the heat is on you and you are losing it… Keep zooming in cirles coz you have been check-mated. You began using dirty language against men and now they have woken up to tell you where you belong. My real name here? What for? Means you don’t even know the silent rules of commenting at KSB. How come the pregnant woman’s name is not written yet she is well known?
l don know whom u r talking about maybe is my sis.u stockholmare u r so so stupid that have nothing els 2 make childrens n youths grow.modomo midomo tu.u pregnat woman all this r ur beste talking about f… them
Mr Ngug, Ajabu Grace and the rest, i don’t know what you people think you are doing but be rest assured that you aint helping in any way, why don’t you stop picking on each other and come up with something concrete, if you are not of helping the poor gal why not just stay out of it, coz claiming here that she has no rights protrays you to be so crude and heartless. There are human rights that govern us, whether we have pappers or don’t. I guess if these papperless people did’nt have a single right then even red cross would’nt be helping them. Instead of heckling here why not start a positive forum that can pic up discussion that can maybe help in paving ways for our brothers and sisters who gets traumatised in the country in search of a better life, just like you and i did: If you can do it, why think these peple can’t do it? Wacheni upuzi, we are all here for one reason and one reason alone. If Kenya was that good guess nonof us could be here, playin secound class citizens if we can be real citizens in our own country. You people aint beter than them papperless gal you know.Remeber she is a university graduate how many of you are??? Peace n love my people.
KSB: Well said.
Xrstin: Talk for yourself because at the end of the day an ILLEGAL immigrant remains an illegal immigrant. KSB comments including yours will never help the paperless woman. This is between her and the concerned man, plus the Swedish authorities. How have you helped her so far? You’d sound credible yourself by picking up the story then telling us proudly how you have bailed her out. Otherwise you are just filling in space for comments like any of us.
You are not teaching us anything new but simply venting your day’s toil from the trenches. If you read my contribution keenly, notice that I have been correcting Grace who took a war path against men, which is not helpful in this matter.
At the end of the day, the man will still be the deciding factor in her case. The Red Cross can only help up to a certain level of anonymity. The rest must be dealt with according to the Swedish LAW regarding one’s residential status, which even you cannot do anything about.
Ajabu, you seem so concerned about the welfare of the paperless girl. The matter was a news item and anybody should be able to comment on it regardless of whether or not they are in a position to help. It doesn’t mean that anybody who comments on the matter MUST be able to help or provide an alternative as to what she needs to do. You don’t need to tell us that it is the Swedish law that applies because that is commonsensical. Don’t take the matter personal by posing as if you have the solution. You are just a commentator like any other commentator. You should not intimidate others who are commenting on the story with all sorts of useless warnings that are not helping. Stop playing the policeman in the situation.
Omboto, it is difficult when raindrops sound different on the rooftop.
Ajabu, stop being poetic with your “raindrops” and “rooftop” gimmick (comment #35) because we are not in a class of poetry. Face the main issue – the unwarranted assassination of Gerry’s character because he made a political comment at KSB. My conscience has forced me to make this intervention because in as much as people may disagree, what is happening now is what I perceive as “witch-hunting” using melodrama that boarders on the dirty and personal. Kenyans in Stockholm should be able to do better than this.
Time for rice and beans. There’s life outside KSB.
Ajabu, I will hold my cue as you enjoy your meal.
All this bickering…Ajabu is right, an ILLEGAL immigrant remains an illegal immigrant!! Let’s be honest here; The “christian” chick is an idot. I’m sure there is a passage somewhere in the bible that says “thou shall not open those university legs before marriage” or something to that effect. Her “friends” gave her some bad advice on how to get makaratasi, and unfortunately she ended up with Mr. tomba every Atieno, Wambui, and Svensson.(I swear I feel for you)
Don’t get me wrong, I’m not defending Mr. Tomba A.W.S… not at all. What he did was F*”#ed up.( stand up and be a MAN for once) Saidia mkristo…don’t be afraid of paying child upkeep, it’s not that much ( http://www.notisum.se/rnp/SLS/lag/19490381.htm#K7 ) and let’s not forget you’ll be getting child allowance ( http://www.notisum.se/rnp/sls/LAG/19470529.htm ), parental benefit ( http://www.notisum.se/rnp/sls/lag/19620381.htm , and paternity leave ( http://www.notisum.se/rnp/sls/lag/19950584.htm ). Don’t you just love living in this country :-)
and for the miss. Unfortunately since you don’t have makaratasi your best shot is to go kijinijini give birth and hope for the best (that means not check-ups for the mtoi but better than popping matembe)or find a kind gentleman willing to help. I wish you all the best.
Sweden’s parliament on Wednesday approved a centre-right government proposal to deny subsidized public healthcare services to illegal immigrants as of July 1st.
The law, which is largely a formalization of the current practice, stipulates that clandestine immigrants and rejected asylum seekers can only receive emergency medical care if they pay for it themselves.
http://www.thelocal.se/11924/20080522/
The only way the paperless woman will get help is through the man who impregnated her. Any other position at KSB will not resolve the matter.
Illegal immigrants in Sweden are being denied access to potentially life-saving medical treatment, a new report from Medecins Sans Frontieres claims.
Other immigrants say that they have not been given treatment because they do not have a personal number. Twelve women in the study were pregnant, but got no access to antenatal care.
Sweden places more restrictions on healthcare provision for illegal immigrants than almost any other country in the European Union, according to MSF. Countries including Spain, France and Italy provide free emergency healthcare to all immigrants.
http://www.thelocal.se/article.php?ID=2599&date=20051130&PHPSESSID=6853b1d7309091219a3d7e7185ea9da4
But if it is a BIG LOTERRY WIN, then an illegal immigrant in Sweden can become a millionaire. This is because for a particular case early this month, the winner cannot be deported to his country of origin that has refused him.
AN illegal immigrant who scored a big win with a lottery scratch card in Sweden has appeared on television to collect his winnings even though authorities have been trying to deport him.
Tesfaldet Tesloy, a 28-year-old Eritrean who has lived in the immigrant-friendly Nordic country for six years, won a tax-free prize of 1.2 million Swedish crown ($166,300).
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,26032126-23109,00.html
pwana obote, i respect your comments cause they r mature. but understand one thing, there is no witch hunting in gerry issue. i do not have a problem bout his political comment. only when he gets himself involved with the issue of paperless girls, knowing very well who he is.
Life for a paperless immigrant in Sweden:
And once you’re smuggled here, how do you propose to go on living? What will you say when at every step you are asked for your personnummer (social security number)? Personnummer in Sweden are created using your birthday followed by four seemingly random digits. But they’re not really random at all, one of them identifies your gender (guys get an odd number, ladies – even) and up until recently, those numbers could also show where you were born or if you were an immigrant.
Those ten digits define your life in Sweden. Without them, it’s impossible to do anything, including using a public restroom. You will need your personnummer when seeing a doctor, or a dentist (even a private one!), when opening a bank account, when trying to get a loyalty supermarket card, when applying for an ID card, when getting your mobile phone registered, when signing a contract with an internet provider, in some shops you will be asked for your personnummer when returning high-price merchandise.
And that doesn’t even include the intended use of personnummer, which is as a taxpayer’s ID number. Your personnummer will be the first bit of info required by your prospective employer and without that your chances of getting a job will be slim to none.
True, there’s always the black market, but you’d be surprised than even many people in that grey area of economy will ask you for your personnummer to make sure you are in the country legally.
http://www.transparent.com/swedish/illegal-immigrants-in-sweden/
The paperless woman should also be aware that after giving birth, her child will be illegally in Sweden and will NOT be allowed to attend daycare or school. Sweden has been criticized a lot for denying children such basic rights. Read on:
Sweden continues to shirk United Nations-mandated obligations guaranteeing children the right to education, prompting the international body to call government officials to testify as to why many refugee children in hiding do not attend school in Sweden.
While Sweden doesn’t prohibit “paperless” children from attending school or preschool, a lack of clear regulations usually result in individual teachers or principals deciding which children are accepted.
Another issue is that schools aren’t considered safe zones, which means children in hiding or their parents could be taken by police while on school grounds.
While police rarely take advantage of the situation, it can happen, according to Save the Children’s Sanna Vestin.
“Just the knowledge that police have the right to do it means that certain parents don’t dare let their children attend school,” she told the newspaper.
http://www.thelocal.se/19694/20090527/