I wish to distance myself from comments at Clay Onyango’s “Butdoisay” blog mentioning one Odero under the thread reading: “Are you suffering from HIV? Tony Odera Has Stretched His Hand to Help…” Posted on October 28, 2008. Filed under: Uncategorized.
A friend called me this evening saying that he had read a new comment by “Asha” mentioning the name Odero and not Odera, who was initially the person being discussed in the Heteroplus information. I immediately sent a text message to Clay at 20:28 saying:
“Sasa Clay. Somebody called telling me a comment on your blog for Tony Odera carries the name Odero and this is linked to the guy’s recent seduction of the commentator’s wife. May I request you to delete my name and correct it to ODERA because am not linked to Heteroplus. Thanks”.
I didn’t receive any response from Clay, therefore sent him an email stating this:
From: oderoxxxx
To: clayxxxx
Subject: Comment on your blog
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 19:23:39 +0000
Hi Clay,
I have now checked and read a comment on your blog linked to Tony Odera which mentions Odero and not ODERA, whom the commentator claims was seducing his wife recently. I have requested on the SMS I sent to you this evening, to please delete the name Odero and replace it with Odera, becuase that comment could be mistaken to mean me, Odero. I am not connected to Heteroplus, which the head story dedicates to Tony Odera. Thanks.
Regards
Jared Odero
There was no response from Clay on my email either. I therefore went to http://www.eniro.se and got his home phone number which I called but nobody responded. I left a message on the voicemail stating that a second comment from Zip mentioning the name Odero has again appeared at his blog, after I had requested him on various media to delete and replace it with Odera’s name, who was the main person on the filed story.
If he felt that I was the one mentioned, then he should have allowed my full names with proof of the allegations, or the particular Odero being commented on.
Clay is solely responsible for comments moderated and allowed to be published on his blog. It is therefore unethical and unprofessional of him to allow comments using a name not related to the apparent topic.
Below are the two comments quoted from Butdoisay:
If I ever got the sickness, Mr. Odero would be the last person to approach for advise. He met my wife the other day in town and believe it or not, he started seducing her while he knows the risk. I will go to the real doctors for help, full stop.
Asha. April 2, 2009
@asha, oh my God.Who is mr Odero? What was your wife doing in town? Wacha maneno mingi.
Zip: April 2, 2009
Dr. Jared Odero
KSB NOTE: We concur. This looks like a matter of mistaken identity and because there is no other Odero in Stockholm, the risk is that the allegations may be personally damaging. Given the public profile of Mr. Odero, it is likely that his reputation may enter into serious disrepute and, under the circumstances, it is only prudent that the two parties (Clay & Odero) institute measures of redress so that collective fire can be concentrated on Ambassador Purity who needs to be recalled. Through KSB, Clay has done the same in the past to protect his name from being mixed with the travel agent who was conning people and we hope that this issue will be solved peacefully and without dramma.
About the Author
I love reading all Kenyan blogs in Stockholm from my base here in Oslo but please don’t start the old blog wars. Clay should meet the request of this Kenyan and correct the mistake. Peace!
Having received no response from Clay, I again called his landline today at 15:38 and left a message asking him to get back to me on this issue. The name Odero still remains on the two comments at his blog.
KSB: This issue needs to be sorted out. The last thing we need is a new inter-personal blog war as a commentator put it.
Case solved partially: I have received Clay’s email response saying that the comment is deleted. According to him, he rarely checks email on the address I used. I have reminded him that I left messages on his home phone and had also sent an SMS on Thursday.
However, after checking his blog, I have realized that the second comment by Zip is still there, so have notified him. He said that this was not meant for any harm. Hopefully he will delete the remaining comment too, to end this matter.
KSB: This is the way to go and it is good that progress is being made to resolve the matter. KSB will continue to encourage a peaceful resolution and hope that the handling of the matter will serve as an example for the future. We have much bigger enemies like Purity and a failing government that kills its own people with bullets while others are left to starve to death. We should direct more fire towards these enemies as we resolve internal conflicts among ourselves.
I have checked my email this Monday morning and received one from Clay confirming that the second comment has been deleted. He also wrote that the numbers I used to contact hím are not in use any more. Case closed.
KSB: That was fantastic and hongera to both of you. If we Kenyans could learn to solve tiny hitch-ups that crop up unexpectedly this way, our community here would be way too far. Imagine the damage if you guys decided to open an “Inter-blog war” to sort out the thing! Its what I call maturity. I pity the low diplomatic maturity of Purity in dealing with Kenyans here. She needs a lesson from both Clay and Odero – that issues need to be addressed maturely, not swept under the carpet.
My full name is Ashambu, in short Asha and my wife is called Peninah. I meant Anthony Odera, who is known to his friends as Tonny Odera. I still mean my words, he did seduce her, promising her the best lay ever. Is that the person to approach for such serious issues? In his heart, he knows this is the truth. anyway, he should try other dames, not my Peninah.
Ashambu, short for Asha
Ashambu: As a Kenyan, I feel honored that you have come out in the open to condemn Tony Odera who is a mannerless, pimpish, stupid and old loser. In fact your wife’s case is not the first one. This fool is known to seduce other men’s wives or girlfriends’ giving them false hope, yet his life has fallen apart.
Odera is a gone case who lies to women. There is no promise of ‘the best lay ever’ because he lives in a world of losers. Good that your wife told you about his crazy mind.
Heteroplus was the idea of his former wife who thought much better and rescued Tony from the myseries he created himself.
Anyway, any sensible woman or man would never go to him for help or advice. Just forget about him because he’s equal to a mad man in a Kenyan village market who tells women any rubbbish in his head. Osewe once told us that every market has a mad man and Stockholm has Tony Odera.
Hello Osewe,
Following my conversation with you,this goes beyond the pale.I have taken remedial steps to bring closure .The closure is a law siut.So l am demanding that as the publisher of this blog ,refrain from putting to public discourse issues that have not been fully investigated.Copy sent to Clay Onyango, who the initial comment was lifted from.In the interim l have sought advise from my counsel ,as to the way forward.Who ever is involved in maligning my name and reputation will be found, and put to the test.Thats my promise .Thank you and God Bless.
Anthony Odera
KSB: This issue has been going around since last year and it all started at Clay’s blog. It is very unfortunate that things are moving this way. I have taken contact with my Counsel who has instructed that there should be no ado because the matter at hand did not originate here. Please, serve me with any legal papers so that they can be fowarded to our legal team immediately. In the meantime, try to sort out the issue with the parties concerned.
Hello ,
And that is from the madman of Stockholm
@ Ashambu, i could’nt have described Tony Odera any better than you did. Honestly no proper mind should ever go to this guy for canceling let alone advice. Tony is known to be a big time loser who surrounds himself with losers like himself. This is a person who has been here for years and yet still don’t have a place he calls home. Considering that, what kind of advice can he give??? How to get yourself homeless? This is the same guy who comes out in the open and declare himself HIV + and behind his skam and sickness he don’t hesitate to tune or sweet talk a pretty healthy woman to hit the beds with him. Honestly!!! I see this guy as a not serious person at all, and his coming out in open with his status is to get some petty cash from the Noah’s Arch. Tony get yourself a real job, make it something that you can handle.
@Just Imagine.
Your comments are childish and that’s why you hide your identity. Tony is not the only Kenyan sick with HIV+ neither is he the only sick patient in Sweden. So respect him as a person. Secondly, get your facts right about “Noah’s Arch”(NoaksArk). Tony is not a member neither does he gets a kronor from NoaksArk.
@Ashambu. If you feel offended by Tony. Use proper legal channels to seek for remedy. Publishing hearsays not only ruin the reputation of Tony, but his family, relative and friends. It also portrays you as a coward who hides behind rumors and gossips to confront his problems. If you are really convince that Tony deed something ethically or legal wrong, confront him and the file a law suit if he does not listen. Infecting others with HIV virus knowingly is a serious crime and there are legal redress to that. Therefore unless you file a legal suit, you’ll always appear to be a rumour monger. Finally, any person who understand Heteroplus very well, it history and how it function know you have your facts wrong. Do your research proper. — Grade. U
Herbie, the two you mentioned in your comment simply raised matters observed in the personality of Tony Odera. Whether they use their real names or not is not the issue. Odera’s rotten social habits are known and this is not the first time his name is raised at KSB. This blog discusses issues among Kenya-Stockholmers, so Ashambu was right to put the story here. Am sure he knows there is a legal system in Sweden despite taking this option.
For Tony to gain respect among Kenyans in Stockholm, he must show he respects himself and others. I know of two women who have mentioned Tony’s suductive advances to them, yet he has declared openly his HIV+ status. This is not easy for those not sensitized on the matter. Tony still persists on having a relationship with one of the women whom he claims reminds him of an ex-girlfriend in Kenya.
In addition, Tony is not the only Kenyan with a drinking habit in stockholm. However, once he is drank, he becomes wayward, losing respect among men and women, a fact which has been witnessed at various Kenyan functions. Tony has been banned from entering the most common pub among Africans in Stockholm, commonly called VASA. This is because of his social misbehavior.
In as much as you want the two commentators to respect Tony Odera, once again, he has to first show that respect. And which family, relatives and friends of Tony are you referring to? Tony’s ex-wife and famiy have no time for him due to his rotten habits. His ex divorced him despite having given him a residential permit to live in Sweden. He never respected her in the marriage and always insulted her even infront of her daughter and guests at her apartment.
Follow the archived stories about Tony on this blog and you will know him better. Some people have known Tony since his days as a court prosecutor in Kenya, and have very little good to mention about him. Let him enjoy the good quality life with free medication in Sweden, but should respect other people’s wives.
My name is Anne. I live in Oregon in the US.
I met Tony two and half years ago when he came to meet me in Oregon. We met on Pos Personals and we got to know each other for several months. Since then it has been phone and e-mail corespondence.
He said he loves me and wanted to come back to the states .
I have sent him over $500 to help him, as he told me he was really having a hard time, all along with the idea that he would be back in the states with me and we would be married.
For all this time Tony has never had a job, lives on the welfare system and never has done anything about his alchohal sickness.
I too have been scammed big time , I now realize, and the Tony I thought I loved has shown his true colors.
I am hurt by the fact that he has been so unfaithful,, as he has told me I am the only one. What a fool I have been!
I quess I wanted to believe he was getting his life together, but he takes nothing seriously , not his life, not the lives of woman he involves himself with and not his illness of alchohol or Hiv.
I am heartsick, and I am appauled.
Here in Oregon,,,, a good woman has been deeply hurt!
KSB:
Anne: I feel sorry that you got into an affair with this well-known philanderer called Tony Odera. The man is a failure and has always been one, ever since some of us knew him. I pity your emotional and material loss given that he fooled you into a relationship with the hope of marriage.
Tony is a sworn alcoholic and a social parasite who lives on others sweat. Ever since he came to Sweden in 2000, he has achieved nothing on his own. Some Kenyan friends took him to the Stockholm University to pursue a Master of Law degree but the best he did was to get drank everyday and did not write a single course paper. He had serious concentration problems, given his perpetual drunken state of mind. He lost his course schedule at one of his many drinking joints, and was always involved in fights while arguing stupidly as he normally does, and would be thrown out. He later blamed his Hiv+ as having caused his depression. He dropped out of the Stockholm University, thereby ashaming Kenyans and losing a once in a lifetime chance. He had been given a late admission on account of the few Africans who had succeeded in the program before.
His ex-wife came into the picture and accepted him wholeheartedly, believing that she had met a fellow tribesperson who was educated, mature and ready to settle. She stood by him when he was threatened by deportation and fixed him a Swedish residential permit.
Nevertheless, once Tony was home and safe, his true Demonic character surfaced and he subjected his then wife to continuous psychological torture by insulting her in all manners. She perservered believing that their marriage needed to be maintained. She encouraged him to go public with his Hiv+ status so as to cut a niche for himself and make a living out of it. She got him to join her public discussions for raising HIV/Aids awareness in Sweden and abroad. However, Tony was off and on in this area and as usual, alcohol controlled him.
His ex-wife gave up and divorced him because he could not get along with her daughter, let alone her relatives in Stockholm. Tony suffers from a deep superiority complex, thinking that he is extremely intelligent. However, for the smart ones who have analyzed him, he falls way below average intelligence, because he has no academic background to support this notion.
Tony could not practice Law in Kenya because he did not pass his training at the Law School in Nairobi. His age mates in Kenya are currently senior attorneys with well-established firms. Tony had no choice then but to join Kiganjo Police Training College and ended up as a Court Prosecutor, beginning at the level of a Police Inspector.
In Nairobi, Tony lived cheap, running around with low life women and drinking in all the seedy pubs. Interestingly, he comes from an academic family with the mother holding a respectable position at a Kenyan public university. This is the same with the father who also held a top position at the same institution.
Tony is the black sheep in his family who believes that to beg is fashionable and for a long time, he was literally extorting money from his younger siblings studying in the USA by demanding pocket money for his upkeep here. He has no shame and can only live in Sweden which supports losers and sorry bums like him. He is not competitive and has no vision, that is why he will never move to join you in Oregon. He is alive thanks to the free medication (antiretrovirals) he gets in Sweden.
Anyway, I wish you well and hope that you will get a better man. Forget about Tony Odera because he is a lazy liar who lives on women. His ex-wife kicked him out for the same reasons. In the good old days, many families in Africa demanded a background check before a couple got married. This helped because a potential spouse would know from a relative whether the other person was lazy or wayward in society. Nowadays, technology makes it easy to hook up on the Internet. However, the danger still remains when one has not checked the background of a potential lover.
Good luck in your search for a better spouse.
Anne! You are not the first and the last good woman on earth to feel heartsick, incase you’ve not realised in every secound/minute that goes by there are good people going through heartsickness, so if you are here seeking for sympathy you wont get it, atleast not from me or people who happen to think just as i do. My heart don’t pour for you at all! You mentioned that you met Tony 2 and half years ago when he came to visit you, you did know that tony was married back in Sweden or? That he actually left his then wife, came all the way to US to visit you or? Now be wise with yourself…….. Why are you crying scammed? why don’t you just tell lover boy to pay back his dues? You see USD 500 aint that much! It’s about 4600kr or less, if you were prepared to take him in and marry him when he came back to the states then the money you are talking about is of no essence compared to the total that his ex-wife did put on him to make him this guy you later came to admire and was even ready to marry. Sweetheart you were not scammed! tony is just a wanni all kinda guy, sometimes i even wonder if he gets it????????
Herbie, you know your name aint Herbie so quit pointing fingers at others. I dont give credibility where it dont exsist so please don’t tell me to do so. Im not childish neither is my earlier comment on Tony, the fact still remains that Tony is Tony. And just like Lady Liz says he must start showing respect to others inorder to gain some, it’s a tough world that’s just about it aint nothing about hiding behind them comps, im very pro allais aka anonymous sawa.
Hello Anne from Oregon,
You claim you met tony over two yrs ago. Well, are you sure you were not aware Tony was married to a very beautifil wife called Carol and you are writing this rubbish about being hurt and dumped, about sending him 500 usd just to sq things up. By the way, are you HIV positive? I am happy you are aware of Tonys status and you got yourself involved with him knowing he is hiv, loves his drink and by that time he was happily married, right now he is ONLY separated but i guess his wife still loves him very much. separation is just a break from the usual things in life, like in marriage. So, Oregon woman, dont be heart-sick, get a man near you, Tony belongs to Carol. After all he is a Luo, he can as well marry you as a 2nd wife. before i forget, tony asked you for help in secrecy, just shut up and stop telling us how you helped him. Maybe he gave you a good lay and you just wanted to buy him a present for that. good luck Ann.
Tafadhali mumuache ndugu yangu. Ni wivu tu you have for Tonny. Kan any man really say they have never seduced their friends wives? Leave Tony alone, he is the ONLY total man around stockholm, who asks for what he wants. You keep on talking about sickness, how many of you have gone for check-up and known you are clean? Yea, maybe he does not rhyme with his step daughter, who does anyway? that gal is a spoilt brat who wanted tony out of her mothers house. Tony, keep it up, give those women what they dont get from their men.
To comment on some of the other comments:; I did not know that Tony was married when he came to the U.S. He told me he was single. That information came out later, and then I was told she divorced him.
I was not looking for sympathy. I made my bed and my mistakes in wanting to believe Tony. But the truth is that Tony has alot of work to do on himself.
Many have been hurt by him.
My only hope for him is that he does this work.
I think he is an intellegent man, but for psychological reasons, and poor self image, he is suffering, and the alchol and hiv has been part of the problem.
I hope the best for him, and support all efforts he can make to improve his life on a physical, mental and spiritual level.
As for men in the U.S. there are many. I am a single woman who had high hopes that Tony could get it together. On many levels I really loved him.
I just don’t know what goes on in Sweden, how could I , and the conversations about him have been disturbing and confirming as well.
I hope that Caroline is doing better, and that Tony can at some time gain back some respect, and give respect to those people he has hurt.
Lets pray that this can be.
We all fall far below perfection so I really should not throw the first stone.
I wish Tony could get well, that he could pay me back some money,……that he won’t lie anymore,won’t drink himself to death, won’t die a terrible death caused by Hiv/Aids.that he could have an awakening!… …….I wish alot of things. .
Maybe someday, he will be the man of his true potential!
For now,,,,I am the woman in Oregon, I have my own problems!
KSB: I find your views quite balanced and mature while focusing on the main point. You seem to be honest with yourself while at the same time ready to call a spade a spade. It’s sad that it didn’t work out with Tonny but life must go on ama?
Akinyi: Nobody can be jealous of a loser like Tony. The point is he should shape up or ship out. He is a failure who prys on others businesses, yet gives nothing back to the same society that has given him a new life.
He failed in Kenya and he still remains a failure both financially and privately in Sweden. It is not about his illness, but more about how he could use his public admission of being infected to live better among others. Has he given you some? Live with it because other women don’t want it.
His ex wife’s daughter could not tolerate him for his stupidity and disorganized life, so it has nothing to do with her being a spoilt kid. Some of us have known Tony for years and he offers no room for improvement despite having this opportunity.
He is simply a leech who clings to others like a cellphone for free accommodation, booze and food. So is it OK for him to live on the Swedish Welfare system which most of us pay for? Many HIV+ people worldwide wake up daily and work, so there is nothing strange about it.
Tony only wakes up to booze but does not want to work. Nobody discriminates against him, but many are fed up with his foolish behavior among Kenyans. Can one be jealous of such a fool? He can’t speak Swedish or even use his earlier education for further studies in Sweden. How else can you describe a loser?
Come on Akinyi, stop your unnecessary support for this bigtime flop! Tony gives nothing to those women that they don’t get from their men. He only drools around them imagining he can get some from them. I have talked to three women whom he tried to seduce before (yes, tried but got nothing) and they all gave him the mid-finger.
The guy is depressed, frustrated and blames his failure on his HIV+ status then ends up drinking daily. There are very many successful people working at NOAKSARK where he had an opportunity to sit and work using his brains, yet he also failed there.
If Tony thinks that his third leg is the solution to his problems, he should remember that it is the cause of his current disease. If he doesn’t change, he is bound to fail like many others who lost direction during their younger years in Sweden and are now old, helpless and cannot go back to Africa or live a decent retired life here.
KSB: It looks like there are people who know Tonny deeper than what we have in the public domain. Tonny has gotten a lot of bashing here at KSB. May be, people should hold fire and have fellowship with him because he has taken too many bullets already. Let us not seek to destroy him further but to rescue him from being swept away. Despite his weaknesses, I think he is is an intelligent gentleman who is a victim of circumstances beyond his control and this lack of control is what has contributed to his tribulations. I talk to him from time to time. Now, he has a house to live in while the job front looks good. He is also working on a new project and he seems to be picking up so let us give him time and show compassion. He remains one of us.
KSB: Ceasefires are there worldwide. The biggest problem with Tony is he wakes up and fires more missiles to prove that he is better than those he has hurt or those who fire him for the obvious reasons.
As the Oregon Woman said, all wish him well and hope that he can use the KSB attacks to reform his personality and live like any normal human bing in Sweden. He has access to therapists at the HIV centers in Sweden, and church leaders are available if he needs spiritual nourishment to improve his psychological well-being. Imagine the scores out there who have no access to HIV antiretrovirals yet struggle to put ugali on the table. Tony has everything he can get through hard work here in Sweden.
Oregon Woman, sorry to say that even before contracting HIV, Tony was just as disorganized.
The salvos will cease, but he should also walk the talk by awakening from his deep slumber.
KSB: Well said. I was just sympathizing with Tonny because he has really has a beating of late. I do not wish to hold brief for him because I know he can defend himself.
Hi guys, let Tony handle his own problems. Tony, you really spice other peoples lives, that is why they keep on discussing you here. People are really jealousy of you, you have what they dont have. The guys who keep on talking about your sickness are the ones who have double of it, so, keep cool brother. Tony, I dont mind us sharing a beer. Pls the jealousy group, give me Tonys tel. number.
KSB: Very kind words in deed. I will talk to Tonny about the number and hope that the beer session will work out.
Osewe, my question to you is: Why do you keep on commenting on other people’s comments? I just need an answer because you should stop this habit.
KSB: The answer is very simple. Because of freedom of expression + those people keep on commenting on my postings. By the way, you need to reduce on Johnie Walker?
Leila: This is the meaning of the word JEALOUS: Feeling resentment against someone because of that person’s rivalry, success, or advantages.
Therefore, my question is this: What does a loser like Tony have which would make commentators here jealous? KSB requested peace on his behalf but with such views, the firing squad may aim the guns again.
KSB: It was just a view but if people are burning with stuff, let the fire continue. Faya…
Liz, I think Leila is in love with Tonny but she doesn’t want to say it openly so she is asking for Tonny’s number and hinting at the beer session hoping to be hooked. She is obviously praising Tonny here at KSB to send a message to Tonny that she is into him. By proposing that people are jealous of Tonny, she is sending a signal to Tonny that she is interested.
She may be using KSB to capture Tonny’s attention and using the beer to lure Tonny because she knows that’s Tonny’s weakest point – he will never refuse. If she got his number, they could be drinking a beer already or may be, she may have been laid and probably in the bath tub. Who knows?
Hey Tony ,You said you are reading all this, so send me your new number again as the one you sent is not going through.
Enjoy all this attention! You have really riled people up….you social misfit you!
And for the rest…haven’t we bashed him enough?
He has tried to make up with me… maybe if you all were to approach him in a positive way, he might actually try to start getting his shit together…. Just a thought.
We all need a little LOVE in this world………..some more than others…. Peace to you all,,,from Oregon , the most beautiful state in the U.S.
To you Madam Mrembo, i guess you have never had it in the bath-tub, try it honey. you call yourself Mrembo but maybe you are one of those ugly samaki from L.victoria. Yea, it seems you women are really desperate to have Tony and since he does not want any of you, that is why you are opening your ugly mouths and spitting poison to him. Ann from Oregon, get yourself another man, Tony dumped you cos you could not give him the machine the proper way. I got Tonys number and we read together your msgs and we just laughed them off. Tony has no time for desperados, try your luck somewhere else.
Leila , I don’t have any way of knowing other than what Tony writes to me. His last contact with me was him sending his new phone number and saying “love you” Odera.
so whatever you do in the tub is your business.
I am sure Tony will let me know anything he feels is important for me to know.
My only concern is for him to get healthy, in his physical , material , mental, and in his relationships.
As for laughing at my e-mails, laugh away.
Tony will answer for himself.
Sounds, Leila, like you may just be contributing to Tony’s problem,,, not helping it….something to think about anyway…are you part of the problem or part of the solution………