Karl-Gunnar Wiman, the father of the younger boy, Elias, has told Expressen that he doesn’t believe that the mother killed the children. Speaking to Expressen TV, the father said that the deaths could have been the result of an accident. Interestingly, he seems to be the only person advancing the “Accident theory” although he does not back it up with any facts or evidence. “Do you think she could have hurt the children by herself”, asked the journalist. “No. I think it was an accident”, he said. He said that when he arrived at the flat following a phone call from the children’s mother, he discovered that electricity had been disconnected and that there was not a single clean plate in the house. He also said that the family was living on pitza.
The police believe that the mother killd the boys and she will be charged today at 12.00 hrs. The police are looking for two joggers who are said to have been in the area when the kids were last seen playing at the shores of the lake where they were found. The ex-boyfriend of the suspect does not believe that his ex lover is the type of person who could have killed her own children. The fact that the suspect will be charged today indicates that the police may have obtained evidence linking the suspect to the deaths of the two children.
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Mr. Karl Gunnar, we all share your loss but it seems you had not seen your family for quite sometime. Where were you when Sofia Njoroge was helping out? Did you help your kids with food and all that? Sorry, but you left the responsibility of your kids to others.
What’s the deal with eating Pizza when having a bad economy?!
The prosecutor’s request to detain the woman indicates risk and danger of escape and the disposal of evidence. Also, obstruction of the investigation, known as suppression of evidence.
Remand hearing will be held at half past four today in the afternoon.
Herr Karl Gunnar should be investagated deeply ,As a father he must have abandoned his role as a Parent to his son.
Herr Gunnar looks as Grace Nyamburas grandfather ,Was Gunnar married before? and if he was married before ,does he have children?
The Swedish (Sepo)Police and the Swedish criminal Police should be inclunded in Ivestagating herr Gunnar and his Past !
Did Gunnar Participated in Killing the children ?Herr Guinnar has been a bad father as far as a parent is concerned!
Herr Gunnar must have failed miserably in his role as a civilized european Swede!
I hope the Swedish police will have to iclude herr Gunnar in this heinous criminal Act1
Has Herr Gunnar Conspired with his young Wife in Killing these children?
My only qestion is one. This mzee ni ka sixty. Grace was 30 and their kid was 4. It means they hooked up when Grace was 26 and the guy was 54. this is assuming. so what is going on there swedo? Kwani, vijana wazung are finished swedo ama am I not getting something? No wonder this happened.
Loooooolllll!How desperate was this girl to have a child with a grand pappa?
No wonder she looks xxxx…….Jail both of them…xxxx two innocent souls who had a future????
KSB: Please, don’t make allegations you cannot support.
People here are not understanding……..Kamuzee was tricked with pregnancy for mapepe!! there was no love ivolved in this kids birth…..Kamuzee was out having fun for a night or two…the killer was out hunting for mapepe. People should stop getting shocked because this is very very common….the kid was born to secure the mom PUT in Sweden,and then brings his big brother and that exactly what happened,…after kid mission was over then he was not loved any more!!
A child that comes of love is love regardless…the mother of this kids was frustrated,because she was jobless,no money etc…the only people she could take out her frustrations on was the kids because they were closest….no one else was there to take the anger/frustrations on…if the Muzee was around he wauld have been the one.
Please stop blaming muzee,…am not sure he planned the parenthood with this woman.
//kendo
mambo ya makaratasi make people end up with extreme cases of boyfriends and girlfriends.
some of u are soo imature. cant you mourn with the friends and family? go back to class
This is an outcome of a child born out of the mom’s greed for a residential permit to live Sweden and could have trapped the man with pregnancy. It’s unfortunate the child with the Swede had to suffer. As for bringing the older boy, it’s collateral damage. Most likely what the woman termed somewhere online as loving her kids to death, might have been hating them.
According to Michelle Oberman the following are reasons why a mother kills her child:
◦THE CHILD IS UNWANTED
◦OUT OF MERCY
◦AS A RESULT OF MENTAL ILLNESS
◦RETALIATION AGAINST A SPOUSE
◦AS A RESULT OF ABUSE
◦TO PUNISH THEMSELVES
◦TO “ERASE” IN ORDER TO PERSUE A RELATIONSHIP
◦ANGRY AT THEMSELVES OR TO DESTROY WHAT THEY HAVE CREATED.
#9 the woman has been charged with the highest degree of murder (probable cause). No one has written anything negative about the children, so wonder whom u r calling immature.
Show me your friends ,then I will be able to know whom you are.
Who were Grace Nyambura Kamau closest friends.
Did Grace kill her children alone?
Was there any (med hjälp)? Its up to Police to find out.
//7 I am so piss off with some comments here. Every child on earth is equal and deserves to be loved equally, no matter on which conditions the child is born. some of you here has no heart. Mr kendo especially. Two innocent precious kids has lost their lives and you have the guts to sit here and make such comments. You are also as heartless as Grace!!!
reply to 5. love has no age. In africa girls are also marrying men twice as old as them. Why should this case be strange to you?
Pissoffwoman är “träffad” probably because you gor your mapepe the same way…”tricking men for resindent permit” maybe you the comment was talking to you also??otherwise why should the truth be so pissing? to you? nevertheless those children who comes to this world this way(to make the mothers stay here) those children has a lot of problem one way or another…because they were being born to fifull a purpose,..otherwise they are not worth anything…almost all of those coming here as “turist” end upp overstaying…finding a hook…and then hurra” baloons. After that comes the misery,desperation,dipression…name it…what du you expect??nowonder you are pissoffwoman…
Your boxminded way of thinking doesnt see anthing wrong with bringing human being in the world to fullfill a mission! its very very wrong..and should never be encouraged whatsoever. A child should come from” love to love” from two people who really want a kid..not from a mother who want a permit!!
Kendo
I agree with Kendo this pissoffwoman must have gone through papper hunting the same way, to the ladies out there looking for mapepe try another trick to get papers but not tricking men with having children for papers, u owe that child when you look at his/her face and say i concieved you just for papers ,very wrong ,very unfair and unforgivable.
Uchungu ya Msazi
Read what Kendo says and you are back on the human track (if you ever been there; which I doubt)
I live in Sigtuna. I saw when they were searching for those 2 little angles from my windows. They were inisen! They didnt choose to be born! Every child on earth are a gift! I cant belive how people can harm them. I cry when I hear about some one hurting a child.
The father should be ashame!! He had a responsability when he was thogether with the little boys mum! Shame on you Karl-Gunnar Wiman, DU BORDE SKÄMMAS! Have you forgot sexualkunskapen?? Where were you, to take care of your son??? Out to fucking other women???
The people must start to use condoms!! To protect them self and to protect unwished children to be born.
I feel so sorry for the 2 young boys, they had there lives in front of them! How can someone feel thet she/he own the right to kill them!! Yoy are allowd to borrow a child, DONT FORGET THAT YOU DONT OWN YOUR CHILD!!!
Thank you jumpstart!!my point exactly
Kendo
To jumpstart and Kendo. I don’t think both of you have kids. you talk about children born from ‘love to love’ , if you are from Africa then i would quaranti you that you were not born out of love. How many African women marry men out of love? If you have that evil thinking that people only get kids for mapepe and that they don’t love the kids, then you are not a good person. You don’t deserve children!!! I think you are one of those human beings who would murdered their own kids if they get unwanted children.fy scam for er. I still repeat here that every child on earth deserved to be loved equally, no matter how they are conceived!!!Since both of you seem to attack me personally, i would inform you that i am a proud mother of 3 beautifull kids and they are my world.
Hurra! pissoffwoman!!! i understood you before you even said that you have 3 kids….maybe”unwanted ones or born from tricking men” and i am not even surprised why your mind is “tvisted” because when people are not born in the normal family structure they tend to think the way you think. I was born in a very loving family,where my mom and dad “wanted kids” nothing else…this is what is normal to me! if was born in a slum where no one knows our father..then that would be the normal thing to me…now you are “putting all african women in your own shoes,saying they dont marry for love”…here as we can here…you talking about yourself.
We didnt say that “all children dont deserve to be loved” ofcourse they do,BUT they deserve to be WANTED before they are born!!!”not having then because you want then to fulfill a mission” its a very big different! and my point/message here is “no one should encourage unwanted pregnancies to get permit in Sweden” anyone in their own sences will agree!!!
You seem to feel guilty on how you brought your own kids to this world,…what i can tell you is that i have 4 kids all born in a loving marriage and they know how much we wanted them! and myself too i know how much my parents wanted oss kids,..that why in my world a child is a fruit of love,…. continue preaching your own primitive way of thinking and trust me your kids will continue that way of doing it…like yourself.
Such people like you should not even have kids….”your kids are your world” Grace kids were her world too and she loved the to death?”contradictions?…i mean “the heart/mind is not corresponding….
Pissoffwoman you seem to be a very very bitter person,….and i can understand ….maybe you feel defeated,….after meeting a man after another and producing kids……your life must be hard raising 3 kids on your own…and surely they will also raise their own on their own…it goes on like that………….without end!
Kendo
My heart weeps for these two innocent, little children and their mother. What would compel a mother to harm her own children? She must have had enough pain inside that she could not bear. I am trying so hard to understand the logic behind her action. I’m left baffled and sad. Mothers are supposed to be loving, caring and compassionate, but they’re also humans. She should have gotten help. She must have been overwhelmed to the point of hopelessness. Life can be tough and some of us do get desperate when we’re unable to see the light at the end of the tunnel. I do understand that. There’s always a way out of many circumstance.
We must know that we’re not alone. There is always help if we care to seek; most importantly there is hope. We must never give up on ourselves. We must always remain strong and hopeful in the face of adversity. In the end, there’s always a solution to every problem.
When facing despair, please don’t hurt yourself or the children. Ask for help instead. Meanwhile, take care of yourself and don’t stop believing that you’re good enough. You can handle anything!
This story breaks my heart and I can’t say anything else, but the following: People, please don’t hurt your children. They are God’s gifts to us. Never take Them for granted. I know parents who lost their children and the pain that goes with it. So, Please protect our children, Never put them in harms way, I would die for my son if I had to. I will always sheild him from evil to the best of my ability. Prayers to these children whom we have lost.