Mystery surrounds the status of “Remembering Tevin and Elias” Facebook page which is no longer available to some members who have sent mail to KSB. The page (Address: http://www.facebook.com/groups/209847369081277/?id=210402155692465), which was public and accessible to anybody seeking to join, has suddenly disappeared from Facebook under circumstances that are still unclear.
A strong indication that the page may have been yanked from FB is that a stream of mail from the page’s postings have dried up for certain members while it is no longer possible to join the page through its official address provided above. This has been the situation for the last two days.
The page was allegedly set up by friends of the suspected Kenyan mother basically to remember the boys and nothing else. It was stated clearly that the page was not intended for asking questions as to what may have happened to the suspect or what may have led her to kill her sons.
In fact, KSB publicized the page to expose it to a wider audience because KSB’s Editorial Board thought that the setting up of the page was a good idea. From our point of view, it was the best way to enable the Kenyan and other publics to pour their grief following the murder of the children by their own mother, an unspeakable act that has left many Kenyans and friends alike in a state of deep shock and sorrow. As the page began to attract membership, some interesting discussions were also taking place, both on the sidelines and at KSB’s public forum aka “Kamukunji” or comments section.
Some Kenyans began to question why supposedly very close friends who rushed to set up the page had failed to know that the suspect may have been in a psychological crisis. The argument was that if they were that close, they could have managed to get wind that some cables connecting the suspect’s mind systems were not working properly. According to Naliaka, a commentator, the FB pals were not genuine but were useless and hypocritical because they were blaming Kenya-Stockholmers for having done nothing to help. The commentator wrote:
“Useless hypocritical friends who only communicate on Facebook now blame the Kenya-Stockholm community as if all knew and partied with the suspected woman. She derailed by stopping her so-called “saved Christian life” and went back to the herd mentality of partying na kujidanganya”.
The said friends had allegedly gathered at Sergels Torg in Stockholms Central Business District to lay flowers in remembrance of the kids, an action that did not please Naliaka who wrote:
“If she had all those friends who gathered jana with pix za watoto wake at T-Centralen and are now calling for more crocodile tears in terms of public condoling due to the death of those boys, where were they as the woman battled with her demons?”
Naliaka did not stop there: “Too late too little!! FB can go Fkuck! Meet your friends in real life and use FB for other things. Nobody can stay indoors for days without all those fake friends calling. No wonder they are fake and only meet to gossip and party”.
The matter could have ended there but then, Missy, another commentator, surfaced to lend credence to Naliaka’s observation. The commentator wrote:
“Naliaka you are so on POINT! Now everybody is coming out pouring there sympathies, wishing they had done more so and so. Truth is Wakenya is the last people you want to have around you when trouble hits. They laugh behind your back and spread your personal problems around. And Miss Marple, please don’t come out here saying how you knew this woman and her children. How do you have time to care for her, your own family, your relatives, and other friends? A friend of many, is a friend of nobody”.
Sweet nothings
The problem was that some Kenyans could not understand why the setting up of the page was so fast when nothing happened among friends when the Kenyan lady was experiencing what can only be believed to have been mental problems. The placing of flowers was seen as having been “too hurried” while some Kenyans thought that Sergels Torg was not the right place to place flowers because the boys had lost their lives in Sigtuna, a half an hour drive from Sergels Torg.
The biggest mistake some members of the group may have done and which drew the wrath of some Kenya-Stockholmers was that they tended to blame members of the Kenya-Stockholm community for the tragedy. A key member of the group was specifically isolated by Makena for special condemnation. The commentator wrote:
“They are currently all over FB writing sweet nothings about how close they were to the departed kids. One gang leader is busy blaming herself and the Kenya-Stockholm community among others, for the tragic loss of the kids. Lol! She is a mother and seriously, should have queried why the suspected woman had disappeared from her gossip circle”.
That was after Naliaka had attacked the group because “Mob leaders” gather friends for in-house parties that are aimed for gossip, dancing and binge drinking – whisky and vodka are the norm. Kids are subjected to high decibel music as mothers wriggle their bottoms on living room floors. Thereafter, they post photos on Facebook to show how socially connected they are, with scores of friends”. Makena then rounded it off by throwing a challenge. The commentator wrote:
“FB is now the place to assemble and wrangle over whether to honor the departed kids in Sigtuna or somewhere in Stockholm. It’s a shame that none of the suspected woman’s friends has had the guts to appear on national TV to vouch for her “good character” and motherly care, regardless of the crime she is alleged to have committed. None of these sheep appeared on TV to show solidarity as Swedes laid flowers and lit candles at the jetty where the children’s clothes were found. I guess they were just thinking of how much petrol was gonna cost them to drive for miles to Sigtuna”.
As the discussion raged at KSB, “Remembering Tevin and Elias” FB page also appears to have vanished quietly and without any statement. It was like the typical “Kenyan politics” had found its way into a tragic situation and killed an idea that nevertheless, looked good at face value. May be, the page is just down temporarily and the best is to hope that it will soon be up again. If the page did go down permanently because of politics, it will be another sad day when even after a tragedy has struck, members of the Kenya-Stockholm community continue to remain stubborn with everybody trying to get things done right. That is life in Kenya-Stockholm.
Okoth Osewe
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From reading some of the comments it tells you why Kenyans prefer to live in isolation. I think some of these people have personal grudges and were waiting for such an opportunity to lash out. Seriously what is wrong with people having house parties or drinking alcohol? Why be so petty? Why not focus on more important things, it’s too late now even if the friends were or not in the wrong.
RIP Tevin and Elias.
Osewe, thanks for the continuous updates on this tragedy. As for the FB herd of sheep, this is a reality check!
This is to the so called Naliaka and Missy, if you are not the partying type, just shut up. I am sure you are some of the snr alcoholics, let me enjoy themselves, drink all what they want, its their hard earned cash. Let the kids rest in peace. No body is asking your or forcing you to put any flowers. You are 2 lonely people, mingle with people.
Gubbe, you suffer from the problem of not understanding that the people described were not there for the murder suspect when needed. Also, the nature of such people is to party but run away when their friends have problems.They value partying more and looks at one of their own as a bother when in problems, instead of understing them.
Gubbe, focus on what important things? the suspect lady was isolated and in serious problems, question is what did u do and mostly, what did her inner circle of friends do? They had FB contact with her when things were OK, but why were they not concerned when she was not on FB? You are the one who is petty.
Gubbe Kenyans everywhere are Jinxed (Sycophats)Bear/khat/Bangi/Viagra has completely affected their minds .witchcrafts (Uganga)Dini /plus domo-domo-kazi iendelee.
Mtado/Hii ni kenya /na Wakenya .Players and prayers is what is needed right now. Peace peace to kila mkenya na wakenya .Choma Kula nyama.choma buggy Winter is nearing do not die for the cold Navia-Scandia.
I can only laugh at the term ‘sheep mentality’. a woman who has been pushing the FB memorial once said she had to keep away from the murder suspect because she was irritable! Talk about FB and party friends – as fake as they come.
Osewe, what a saga to wake up to. Why shut down the FB face yet it was for a good cause? Depressing!
KSB: I have repeated that the idea of setting up the page was good. Closing it down was a bad idea. Something we don’t know may have happened ju it seems to have closed down after the Sergels Torg visit. KSB is waiting to see.
For thoseamong us who hove opponion about the tragedy, pleas keap to your self. What we nead right is people joining forses in prayers and remembering the familys and frainds of the two lillte boys who died.
Prayersis wat we nead at times like this not roumers.
Haahaaaa heee Jane! You simply missed the core of the story. Party but also remember that you should check on your friends in real life and not only on FB.
oh grow up! Are those complaining of Naliaka’s and Missy’s views merely guilty for not having been in touch with their murder-suspect friend? Are they shocked that she allegedly murdered, yet they never saw the signs from her verbal aggression and instead dropped her from their party crowd? This is a lesson to all that put your friends close enough whether through good or bad times.
Saturday morning breakfast story as I enjoy the sunshine. Drink, get drunk, party, be on FB but for f-ks sake, call your friends and know how they are. One month is too long to keep off from a friend.
Moha #10, read the Swedish newspapers for the shocking views on this tragedy, especially the racist blog PI, then you will know that KSB commentators are civilized.
All top psychologists will use our Kenyan sister as a case study. This is the beginning. As per sticking to our opinions, Osewe has KSB open full blast to channel them. He is the only President who can ask as to shut up here.
KSB attracts very interesting commentators. Those stung by the FB and party angle don’t seem to explain why the murder suspect’s friends kept her off their circle when they realized that she was verbally abusive. Instead, these commentators are just adding opinion to their assumed personality traits of Naliaka and Missy. Maajabu – comprehension….!
Moha opinion must be aired about the alleged murder otherwise why is the story here? for example, why did she murder her kids? Why did the Sigtuna social services not help? Where were her friends when she had disappeared from FB, telephone contact and physical meetings? Get real!
we can acces the page in kenya…….for the critics use ur tyme well for those who feel touched by the situation lets join hands n help……one luv
Why I mentioned the word petty is because some people are stooping very low, fake friends or not who wants to know who drives without a license and how do they know this? Is that not a reason we tend to keep off each other? We can dwell on this issue about her party friends but it’s just taking us in circles hence need to focus on other things. The boys are gone!! This should be a lesson to each and everyone, I’m sure we all have friends, lets be on the look out for one another.
#7 Hype while you’re busy here trying to play an angel you are no better. When the FB woman said that the kid’s mother was irritable wouldn’t you have advised her that it’s not the way to dismiss a friend? I bet you were busy gossiping and laughing at the poor woman!
This is a comment i came across made by Lereina, very wise words!!!
I think what each and every human being should be focusing on is how to ensure this does not happen again.
Depression is a DISEASE, like cancer or a tumor, just that it doesnt affect the physical body but the spiritual being of a person. Many of us might never understand this disease, or will be lucky enough never to go through it.Nevertheless, we should find it in our hearts and souls to try and understand this is a disease. We should also find it in ourselves to express the same emotions, feelings, sadness, grief we go through when we hear someone has cancer or a tumor. The same support we give people with cancer and tumors or any other terminal diseases is the same support (or even more) we should give those in depression, as this is not a tangible disease.
As much as this story has taken my breath, broken my heart into many pieces, I refuse to point fingers, because I believe, I’ll never understand many situations in life until I am in the other person’s shoes. And as long as I live or any other person lives, they will never take the same path as another person, because our difference in personality will make us react differently to each situation we experience. What I have chosen to do is take the lesson and apply it in my life. Really be my brother’s and sister’s keeper, despite the circumstances and pay more attention to mankind. I hope that we all have learnt something and that after we have healed and gotten over the guilt of what we should have done we will apply these lessons in our lives.
Tevin and Elias, R.I.P boys. We know that your last days might not have been easy and WE as adults and citizens of this universe, should have done more to protect you CHILDREN as is our responsibility. I hope you will forgive us. But I also hope you know that you touched each and every person you crossed paths with in your own special way and that you will never be forgotten and our love for you will always remain in our hearts.
Comment by Lereina | September 23, 2011
Jane #3: seriously, you did not understand the context of Naliaka and Missy. Point is they didn’t denounce drinking/partying, but focused on why the murder suspect’s drinking and party friends never bothered to check on her through FB or telephone for a month to know how she was. Otherwise all have their hard-earned income and whatever they decide to do with it is their own business – to party, drink, pay prostitutes, etc. Only ask back how your buddies are.
Just because people have kids doesn’t mean they want them or even love them. For some folks, kids just happen, and sometimes they become “inconvenient” to have around. These poor babies never stood a chance. If they had survived their childhood, we would probably be reading about their crimes, all because their parents didn’t care enough to do a good job bringing them up.
Oh, those poor little babies. It breaks my heart to even think about this. Helpless, trusting, innocent little ones – so, so sad.
Seriously, if your in an terrible emotional state of mind and you have to walk almost a mile while everything is going on in your head, do you think your’re still going to be in a better state of mind? You’ll be in shock! Everyone reacts to things different! Don’t always be the one to point the finger. Whether the mother is guilty or not, WHEN WILL EVERYONE LEARN THAT IT’S NOT OUR PLACE TO JUDGE?
I know this woman’s mother. She’s one of the kindest, most caring people you will ever meet. She’s just lost her grandchildren and, in a way, her daughter. Regardless of what you think of this woman or what she’s done – please just pray for her family.
How could she watch her babies go in that water? This makes me want to cry…I hope this BIATCH gets what’s coming to her in more ways than one. WOW; this kind of thing really makes me sick, sad and digusted.
Gubbe: Single mothers need to realize that nearly ALL “deadbeat dads” use all ways to get out of paying child support. Those men rarely get the kids unless the mother is proven to be grossly unfit to raise them. In this case was the woman responsible? The verdict will tell. Women need to stick to their commitment to NOT DATE ANY MAN WHO IS WILLFULLY NEGLECTING HIS OWN CHILDREN. If he doesn’t care enough to provide for his own children, why would you want him around yours?
Another case of getting a child for papers that has unfortunately ended tragically.
Granny…..”you nailed it” so true …..
//C
Kenyan women are damned desparates .Why do majority of Kenyan women marry their grandpapas ?Cant they find youngmen. The so called Ma-pepes (Uppe¨ällstillständ has forced very young Kenyan women to marry Alkoholics, drugaddicts and grannys just to get (Mapepes)!