Wakenya…Wakenya!! Domo huyu, mlevi yule! But as you should accept, we still row the same boat. As the debate rages here, the issue slowly slips out of topic. The theme changes with ease, as personalities and unsettled scores find field and stage to dictate the subject.
Is there a celebration for the death of a child? Is there a celebration for the assassination of a character? Death? People…we are talking death!! Death at its worst! The killing of children by the mother. It aint gonna get worse than that. It is the ultimate sin, crime, evil that one can perform, and that can befall a community. Well, it has befallen us.
As Osewe puts it, I did advocate for the freedom (of speech) to comment at KSB . My own pat on my shoulder, a job well done…..
When Osewe posted what the racist blog PI (I had no prior knowledge it existed and I was quite surprised it was such a conversant blog to KSB commentators), had written about the woman suspected (at the time) of killing her sons, their hate was not only visible in their criticism or verbal abuse of her but was directed at all of us.
But when the comments started raining down at KSB, the torrent was such that one could not tell who the racist here was, the Kenyans, or the self accepting white Swedish racial discriminator.
That white racist came and had his day at a Kenyan blog. What you think is filth coming from him was for him a means of getting forward his message; go back home monkeys!!
What did we achieve in engaging these poor lost human beings, in a bitter negative word exchange? Matusi, mchongoano, and all that takes us no where! And at the end of the day, they are the ones left laughing it off coz they came into your house and defecated.
Why are some of us concerned? Why should we care? What would uniting Kenyans help?
Of course, not all of us understand the meaning of unity. Not many of us can see the importance of being one community comprised of individuals with one mutual origin, Kenya! Not all of us are comfortable with the fact that we can, as a people, perform as one. This we must realise and accept, albeit sadly.
But for those whose love extends to fellow countrymen, then unity and solidarity is but the nagging dream that can and must eventually be realised! For the greatness of our nation, for the upliftment of every person within the shelter of one society!
It has taken me real time considering if I should forward these thoughts of mine here and especially at this space, sorry if I’am late. Am writing this well aware that I might be the next victim of the KSB commentators’ venom. That’s how much WE fear KSB.
But then, all that is needed for evil to prevail is for one good man to do nothing. My character not withstanding.
That Mwaura, at long last had to stand up and indeed in front of Osewe, mouth the thoughts that are running through the minds of like minded Kenyans is a call for kudos! Like him, hate him but he did say what many think or want. As a politician, of which we should recognise by now, he chose to take the opportunity to voice what he perceived a concern to Kenyans.
Was it at the right place? Was it at the right time? Politicians back home yap even at funerals and weddings. So why should Mwaura be left out? Good people, how did you get to know who was or was not invited where? How is that relevant?
This is how petty the Kenyan community in Stockholm has become. But be well informed that the comments do not necessarily come from Kenyans in Stockholm or those with reciprocal interest, hold on tight, we can still do it!
KSB is KSB
Still, I would prefer to face my enemy head on. Kikulacho kii nguoni mwako! That in mind, the argument that commentators should register at the KSB headquarters was a positive implication from those who care about who we are. There should thus be no need of being anonymous and no fear to challenge. As put, I did fight for your right to comment here and in Osewe recognizing my efforts, my fight for free media flow, I did achieve something.
But I cannot say that am proud of the there-after. One of the reasons why I turned my blog to black was coz I gave up on Wakenya in Sweden. For example, this could have been a worthy debate if only we had focused on the topic – us.
If we want to be united, what’s wrong with that? If we want to go back to the time when we did not wash our very dirty linen in public, what’s wrong with that? Who should be against us being friends or better still, our brother’s (and sister’s) keepers!? If it is our desire, then we can do it and we should not be intimidated!!
If those who knew this young family chose to ask themselves if there was something we could have done as a community, why shouldn’t we? If we choose to explore ways by which we can stop a similar disaster from happening, why shouldn’t we?
We hurt, we regret, we are angry as we mourn and what binds as together is the realization that we probably might have helped if we got the chance to, and the desire to see to it that an event of this magnitude does not happen as we watch. Ever again!
What’s wrong with that!!?
There was a time we knew each other well. We all used to attend the same functions. We were friends! What happened? Today we are divided and the only person who does not realize this is the person who never got to see the unity and the solidarity of Kenyans when it was good. We never made it to the best but time is still on our side.
Most of us are now parents. And when something like what happened two weeks ago does occur, the shock is real.
As a people, it has to be expected that we’ll always have issues with each other. This can be settled depending and according to the individuals in question, but I fail to see how spitting your venom at a blog appreciated as the main source of news about Kenyans in Stockholm, helps solve the issue!
In respect to the right to express ourselves, you will of course continue to air your thoughts and pour out your anger and frustrations at KSB. Settle scores and hit where ever you choose to aim. The admin has accepted to grant the commentators their full right, to use or abuse.
This is what some of us have to come to terms with and accept. KSB is KSB, and though it is about issues affecting Kenyans in Stockholm, you might not get your satisfaction here.
So, besides criticising what we don’t like about this popular media outlet, where else can we look up to?
Ask not what KSB can do for you but what you can do for your community. If you strongly believe that the Kenya Stockholm community should be united, that it should have a voice as one for all, then nothing can stop that!
My biggest concern is not what Kenyans can do for me. We are doing ‘good’ isolated in this concrete jungle. Besides, we still withhold our groups of friends and further more, no one pays your rent right?
Well, all I care about is the steps I will leave behind for my daughter to follow. I would still want to be one with my friends, my fellow Kenyans, the people I know so well. So is it wrong for me to call for unity? Is it wrong for me to voice the mind of many who call for decency? You be the judge, have your field day…I have just had mine…
Njoro.
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Njoro, this is not the first time you have called for unity. You did that before on your defunct blog which despite presenting “socially and politically correct” personal views (yours), was also a platform for constantly attacking KSB. You deviated a lot then and I am astonished you give yourself kudos for championing the opening up of KSB comments section. You should not credit yourself for that because you called Osewe a Dictator, among others. In addition, your former blog became a cesspool of tribal sentiments during the post-election violence (PEV) period (check your archives) leaning towards the Kikuyu.
Mwaura had a field day chopping Osewe at the private party he had gate crashed. In your piece, you support him for presenting his thoughts, and that as a politician, we should be used to this by now. Anyhow, although the function was arranged by a Kenyan, we live in Sweden, and certain “home habits” simply turn out as primitive; i.e. shooting one’s mouth with irrelevant matters at the wrong place. The flurry of KSB comments on Mwaura were enough to show what the commentators thought about him. Mwaura must change his public image, especially that of unnecessarily hijacking situations. There have been embarrassing moments stirred by him, which have left Kenyans shocked at various functions. I won’t write about them because they are worse than what he did to Osewe.
I am surprised that you raised the matter of KSB commentators concerning the confessed killer. There was a clear demarcation between drawn sympathies for the late children, and the mixed feelings people had towards her. If you talk about unity in sorrow, then recall how the hall in Saint Eugenia Church was filled to the brim with many mourners. Some speakers including Mwaura used the platform to air their personal thoughts, whether valuable or not.
The Swedish racist blog (PI) had done the job of “outing” the confessed killer by September 19, with her photo and personal data to boot. Osewe was very careful about staying within the stipulated law on freedom of expression concerning a suspect. It is also the same KSB that lifted the PI article to show the extent of the racists’ views on us, and then the commentators fought back until they withdrew. It is therefore unfair for one to go out there and attack KSB commentators for causing “fear” within the Kenya-Stockholm community, thus putting off those who wish to express themselves. This is pure hogwash because KSB does not control one’s life or earn them a living. Life should gravitate on more important matters than KSB. A similar thought was aired by some commentators concerning the constant reliance on Facebook for interaction. They believed that those who blamed the local Kenyan community for not having been there for the confessed killer were themselves guilty for hounding her out of their social circles in real life, and possibly on FB.
What do you mean with unity among Kenya-Stockholmers? Unity is a relative word and it won’t come through penning it at KSB. Kenyans convene during moments of joy and sadness; that constitutes unity. If you want unity within a formal association, then we have had both political and welfare parties. Did you ever use them to unite Kenyans? The word remains elusive unless you clearly spell out what you mean by it.
Njoro nenda zako.Eti unity my elbow. U used your blog to constantly attack Osewe for nothing,so wat unity do you want? Stick to those buddies of yours and let KSB be KSB. Blog yako ulifunga… uliishiwa agenda when you realised you had no more nasty words for Osewe. Hypocrite mkubwa wewe.Ushindwe sana!
Spoken like a true patriot
Njoro: Post the URL of your former blog here so that we can evaluate your then thoughts on Osewe. Your push for unity falls flat when some of us recall the venom you used to shun Osewe, plus opening up for commentators to lambast him on petty issues. You have written that as the administrator of KSB, Osewe allows even abusive language. Did you not do the same? It’s easier for you to currently poke holes in KSB yet did so much of what you perceive to be wrong at your former blog.
Did you impose or demand that commenators should write their names, email addresses and phone numbers? No. For your information, KSB is hosted by WordPress, a software for creating blogs and Websites. None of their rules demands what you support in terms of listing personal ID when commentating on a blog. This is naive of you and wonder what you expect to achieve with it. A few years ago, Mwaura (your sidekick in this matter) was the Chairman of Narc-Kenya Scandinavia, yet I don’t recall him imposing such a condition on commentators who gave their thoughts on the Party’s blog.
Just as expressed by Abby #1, please explain the kind of unity you visualize in Kenya-Stockholm.
Njoro, we have seen your likes with veiled tribal attacks that you used on your former blog. Osewe has meanwhile kept steady with numerous and divergent articles and stories.KSB lives on, with or without unity among Wakenya.
Njoro, KSB is a virtual forum for Kenyan-Stockholmers to gather info or post their thoughts. Unity will never be achieved here. If you want unity, then use KSB as a platform to ask Kenyans for a general meeting in real life, to strategize on how to build it. ´
Facebook is another virtual tool for expressing thoughts and sharing photos with the outside world, e.g. during the Arab uprising when the ruling governments controlled the mainstream media. However, people have had to face real bullets, far from FB. It is the same with KSB. You can wash your dirty linen here using your known names or remaining anonymous, yet it remains on the Internet. Real life situations are so different.
Njoro you should have written your achievement in uniting the friends around you, thus are now doing something worthwhile, etc. Did you unite Kenyans in forming the football or basketball teams? Have you ever hosted a party and invited all the Kenyans to come and enjoy with you? Have you ever had a social or political party aiming to gather Kenyans for various reasons? I give an emphatic NO to all those questions because all you did in the past (to reach Kenyans) was to own a blog that was quite good in expressing your views, until you began writing nonsense about Osewe and KSB. You then let your commentators call him all manner of names because of the unfounded fear you injected in them about KSB.
Revive your blog and use it to spread that unity you so crave for!
There we go kenyans again hulting insult to each other. Cannt you see this is a wake up call for all of us. Congrate njoro. Osewe such comments are the ones facilitating the anger of people. Why cannt you stop them and we continue to call you dictator BUT for a good course. Dont forget you are a media and you can unite us kenyan and you can separate us. When i came to sweden i was told that kenyans are not good to each other but i can today stand and say thats not true. I came here without knowing it anybody and today iam standing on my feet and even haing a family of my own. Why most of the kenyans that i met were angels sent to me me by God. Those who were not supposed to be on my life were just going quick as they came. but that doesnt mean that they are bad but they were not sent and they were there for us to learn that search people exist. BE POSITIVE KENYANS IN JESUS NAME.
Let me also become a commentator this time around. Thanks Njoro for your article which I hope will stimulate healthy debate. You admit that you shut down your blog because you “gave up on Wakenya”. I hear you because blogging (of the KSB type) is not just about setting up a blog. It is standing up for what you write and taking responsibility.
You talk of unity and then you justify Mwaura’s use of a private party to attack KSB commentators. What you are encouraging here is that there should be no problem with people converting private functions eg kid’s birthdays into battle zones. I could have made a worse verbal attack on Mwaura and this could have encouraged even more confrontation. There are Kenyans who are not so polite and when you bring up certain issues at a private function (sometimes in someone’s house), the host can opt for physical violence which might lead to injury, police case and other unspecified consequences. Suggesting that Kenyans should convert private functions into platforms for addressing “any issue” is, in fact, a recipe for disaster.
More pathetic is your comparison of Stockholm’s private functions with public platforms politicians use in Kenya to engage in cheap politics of deception. You cannot compare a Church or a funeral platform in Kenya with a baptismal or birthday Party of a young child in Stockholm. You are suggesting that Kenyans here should duplicate the weird behaviors of politicians back home?
You say that Mwaura is a politician and that “we” need to live with that? Of cause, even Sonko, Simo and the Livondos are all politicians but have Kenyans embraced them and their style of doing politics? Anyone can take a political tag and begin walking around politicking. The significant issue is the kind of politics you are driving and your credibility.
There is this attack on anonymity at KSB. As a former blogger, I thought that you were the last person who could have raised this issue. It is impossible to validate an ID even with registration at a blog site. Osewe can tell people to register at this blog but anyone can still be anonymous. Anonymity is a well accepted practice online and when someone says that commentators should give their true IDs at KSB, I just want to vomit. I can write that my name is “George Njoro” with a fake address and even telephone number and I will have to be registered as such even if I am Otieno Kamau. Before the comments section was opened at KSB, I warned about the same consequences you say you are now not pleased with. You never listened to my call but proceeded to attack me with the same (if not worse) vitriol you are currently discouraging. Surely, this is hypocrisy.
Kenyans in Stockholm are not different from other immigrant communities – whether it comes to gossip, personal intrigue, political and personal differences, spreading rumours, partying (publicly or privately), setting up individual networks, mourning etc. The difference is that sometimes, stuff gets online, probably because we are more ahead in IT thinking (No wonder we produced the US Prezzo). You admit that you didn’t know about PI where there have been worse comments about our sister than KSB. Have you ever tried to encourage PI commentators to get their real IDs?
The Swedish equivalents of KSB are 10 times worse when it comes to matusi and other venom spilt by commentators. This is not to defend dirty comments. If you take a good walk around the net, you might as well undergo a mental revolution from the point of view of blogs and comments. Sometimes I pity those who cry over KSB commentators and hope that they won’t be going very far from KSB because if they take a wider detour, they might as well faint or get a heart attack.
Your call for unity is timely but without an organization, the call remains hollow. The unity you reminisce about existed under the umbrella of an organization which you never even joined. A community cannot unite in a vacuum. It has to organize otherwise any calls for unity will be at the inter-personal level. Kenyans in Stockholm are united but only around friends and close buddies so it is not entirely correct to say that Kenyans are “disunited” here.
@Kamaru …lol! Kweli nyani haoni kundule. Which comments are you referring to that pose insults to other Kenyans?
What is it with these Kenyans? It seems when a personality comes upfront with there real labels they get the fire burning like crazy? Are you so threatened that all you want is people to be handles? Quit roasting people here fala nyinyi. Unity is a word that is missing in all Kenya-stockholmer dictionary and its about time we revisit it, we should cudos Njoro for being brave enough to come forth instead otherwise. Njoro my applauds, we need to unite,
Njoro blog was a mouth-peace of defending and protecting Gema-Ruling -class &PNU impunity of the highest order.
His blog was anti-Luo and the PM Hon;RAO .Of all the people mr Njoro should be the last hater to talk let alone to speak about kenyans community unity in Stockholm.
Why is mr Noro supporting Mwauras childish and uncouth behaviours in Public.
Call it a cold war era btw the Luos and the Kikuiyus if you like.
Please let every Kenyan clean his/her( skit) dirt before seeing others dirty and filth -shit-pit
I agree that Njoro’s call for unity is not new. However, he should define the type of unity he wants. If he wants to unite us under an umbrella for various activities, the he should recruit and register members as per the laid down Swedish laws, instead of looking for excuses through KSB.
Njoro, the kind of insults flung by Kenya-Stockholmers on Facebook at their perceived enemies i.e. husband/boyfriend/girlfriend/boyfriend snatchers are nothing compared to what you feel are terrible comments at KSB. Have you asked for such people to unite?
Terming the mentioning of Mwaura’s gate crashing at the private party where he attacked KSB commentators petty, means you justify it. Imagine somebody doing the same at your daughter’s birthday?
It is daft of you to ask for the registration of KSB commentators IDs. What will it achieve as asked by commentator Abby? Osewe has also replied you that one can write any name that looks legit, yet remains anonymous.
Njoro, your article presents you as a well-informed person, yet you keep cycling around the “homeboy mentality” when you touch on Mwaura’s case. I know you attended the birthday party and was in full support of Mwaura. However, you need to remain neutral and drop the veiled “mundu wa nyumba” bias.
@commentator #12, umenena hata sitaongeza mengi.A tribal hater is wat summarizes Njoro who is today calling for unity.MWenyewe hata kuwaleta Wakikuyu wake pamoja hawezi. How then can he unite those tribes that he hates so much?
Osewe hope you can repost some of Njoro’s articles used to attack you to confirm that he is a tribal hypocrite.
UK stands for “UHURU KENYATTA” is no Villian to the Mt, Kenya Nation “Why is that” because the Mt Kenya Nation allow him to Murder, Kill their youth and wipe their blood with his ass, while they sing his praises.. The Mt. Kenya Nation worship and Adore UHURU KENYATTA “UK” even when their own children are being Killed “extra-judicial killings” because in their confused brains, they think that he is their anointed one and he can spill all the blood he wants of their children, wife’s, husbands e.t.c they have given Uhuru Kenyatta a free hand to do what he wants..
while the FISH LOVERS FROM THE GULF of KAVIRONDO have told UHURU KENYATTA “UK” that they will hunt him down through the ICC and lock him up for life for killing their youth, children, husband, wife’s, mothers, daughters, sons, grandmothers, grandfathers, HOW DOES UHURU KENYATTA “UK” react to these charges, ? he goes to hire MUZUGU, lawyers and detectives FROM ENGLAND because he doesn’t even trust his own KIKUYU CLAN to represent him! after all to him they are just people that he can spit on, kill at Leisure, give command orders though their children “mungiki gangs” to go out and kill other tribes! so what do they know? the people from MT. KENYA nation are useless to him and he can not even identify with them except for when he wants to use them or order them to slaughter others or be slaughtered at his own pleasure, the people from Mt. KENYA NATION will never complain or raise a finger at UHURU KENYATTA!!,HE IS THEIR KING” they have been trained to follow HIM blindly and to remain submissive when it comes to his welding power and opps!! ofcourse all his wealth that he stole from the same people of Mt. Kenya nation.. that is why they some were removed from mt. kenya by force “reference” Mau Mau settlers” and settled in the Rift Valley among other tribes by force by his father Jomo Kenyatta.
Ebu, let me contribute my 2 cents this time around.
Wakenya have all the right to their say in matters relating to their society in Stockholm, especially since they make up this society and are the people that define it as well. Waswahili walisema, “akili ni kama nyuwele, kila mtu anazake” (forgive the shrub if it exists). For those not proficient in the Swahili language it translates to “Brains are like hair, everyone has them”. They may be differences in how they are put to use but the bottom line is everyone has them. My point is that even if one may consider another’s statement to be pure BS, we should cultivate the habit to agree to disagree and even try to be amicable while at it. I have followed the raging debate with great interest and I am now reminded of this guy I knew once upon a time, whenever he opened his mouth to speak his peers would begin heckling and asking him to “wacha ujinga”. The poor fellow even developed a stutter and often resorted to violence since that was the only way he could express himself and receive the attention and respect he desired. I understand the guy went on to be a cop and I would hate to run into him on a dark night, but that is another story.
Njoro has issued a call for national unity in Stockholm, and I think this is admirable and a noble attempt at directing the debate in the right direction in this moment in time. I really do not care about his background or what he did in the past. I live in a glass house and do not throw stones, we all have our skeletons in the closet and anyone who says different is a lair or deludes themselves. I do believe however that we do not have static personalities and have the ability to grow, either negatively or positively, and decision is a personal one. This in turn then relates to how we affect those around us, and society at large. Njoro has also commented on certain personalities and his opinions on the subject need not be repeated. His opinion is just that, and since it does not add to or diminish the amount of ugali in my sufuria, I need not get all emotional and red-faced (pun intended) about it. Why expound so much energy debating, analyzing and speculating about his opinions on the alleged behavior mister so and so? (Alleged because I wasn’t there, but I do not doubt your narration of evens KSB) All the while we do not see the trees for the wood, miss the big picture. Let us put our energies into debating and reasoning on how we can improve and uplift ourselves as a community, ama ni vipi? We are a minority in Stockholm, Sweden for that matter, and as we all know we face challenges every day not because of who we are as individuals, but how we are perceived as a community and the geographical region we come from. Why should we author and advocate this mentality within our society? Ukabila, wivu and umbea is holding us back even in Stockholm, shall we never grow weary and begin instituting change even if it begins with how we address one another? I saw this clip about a story Wangari Mathaai (RIP) wrote for children called the Humming Bird on YouTube, look it up people we could all learn from it.
Now that I have got that off my chest, musinipige sana jameni (forgive the shrub if it exists, again).
My 2 cents.
I will be a hummingbird” – Wangari Maathai
“I would still want to be one with my friends, my fellow Kenyans, the people I know so well. So is it wrong for me to call for unity? Is it wrong for me to voice the mind of many who call for decency?”
Njoro, who are these “many” Kenyans whom you are voicing their call for decency? What decency, in this case? You wrote that you gave up on Wakenya, thus pulled down your former blog. As expressedd by others, you seem to be a staunch supporter of Mwaura, thereby overlooked his public misbehavior at the private party. We know he is a politician but many commentators were concerned that he keeps lying that he is a councillor, yet he is just a substitute/replacement at Botkyrka Kommun.
Kenyans in the Diaspora have matured politically hence the knowledge aquired from their respective domicilled countries such as UK/EU/USA .Perhaps mr Njoro was shedding his views since he might have matured from hgis earlier Kenyan village mentality .He might have seen the light that shines on a hill-top.For Jesus said a City built on hill-top cannot be hidden .If mr Njoro has been transfigulated he should be welcome fold instead of keeping firing Scud-missiles on him.
Njoro there’s nothing wrong in calling for unity. However, by including Mwaura’s bit and that of the confessed baby-killer, you have invited attention on matters that will lead to comments beyond your subject. Don’t blame the commentators but yourself. After all, it is your past calls for unity that you never developed, which people are referring to. Just assemble whoever you wish to team up with and act. KESOFO was here as a unifying Kenyan association, were you a member? Common unity will always remain elusive among us because we all have a different agenda for living in Sweden.
Unity for what Njoro? Keep those friends you cherish otherwise wakenya hawana muda wa joint things. Haven’t you learnt?
Njoro is an attention seeker.Must be missing blogging,so comes to KSB to revive old thoughts.Kaa nazo huko kwako.
and so njoro, you also naively believe KSB commentators should write their IDs? This is not an elitist online paper/blog or one of those requiring subscription. Even the BBC or CNN do not enforce such rules. The minimum is moderation by the admin to filter out inappropriate words.Why one’s ID then? will you have us arrested for writing harsh words against you? Acha kuturudisha nyuma. KSB is not in China or one of those banana republics where freedom of expression is gagged.Let people be free to discuss their views bila vikwazo.
@Maggy #21 you have left me laughing my guts out. Eti Njoro might have matured from his Kenyan village mentality. U sure gave humor to the whole debate, which is necessary.
I agree with Obote here,wakenya why dont you look at the positive side of what the guy has written or come up with instead of opening old wounds in things that do not matter now. Its a fact that unity has failed in the kenya stockholm society and i will tell you why,this commentators here are either born in the late 60s and early 70s, you came to sweden in late 80s and early 90s, i am sure you have achieved nothing in this country ,some of you don’t even know what intergation is. Kazi zenyu ni kuenda kuosha mcdonalds usiku na kuchunga wazee when school are here for free, the rest of your free time is to visit KSB and look for maneno or call friends and gossip all day.If someone call for unity ,how can u interprate that?Is it evil or good? re-think when u r seating behind that computer and making a comment to rost someone in this blogg coz he mentioned his name, I challenge you to put ur name and see how you will rost like a chicken because you are no angel.Last a word to the owner of the blogg.Sir i challenge yuo because i know you are a talented man and i give you all the respect,but when some idle kenyans who are out to kill peoples morals and personality comment to this blogg you should either edit it to the last word or dont post it at all because even though the words dont come out of your mouth they pass through you and you create enemies for nothing which is not worth it, you got talent use it for a good cause.Very Last all kenyans have rights to comment in this blogg but please please guys why cant you say some good words too, you only hurt others so bad and then you go to bed happy about it-all i can say is najivunia kuwa mkenya, men jag är jävligt besviken.
Jump Start #26: Thanks for your suggestion. I may have to repost some warnings I gave some years back about opening comments at KSB because even though I have repeated myself several times, some people do not yet get it. Secondly, what you see here has already been edited. Thirdly, you are calling for a stop to matusi here while at the same time tusaring people, calling them failures after being born I don’t know when. If you were not born in the 60s and 70s, you must be an 8-4-4 dude/chick. If someone comments here that you are a maziwa nyayo maziwa lala chokora, how will you feel? Do you know the people you are accusing for sure? Many respectable Kenyans are earning a honest living daily by pangusaring and rocking at McD, kusafisha viombo kamili, kuchonga viazi if you can’t get another jobbo na kadhalika. Did you not watch on Swedish national TV the Kenyan journalist (with Masters in journalism) doing the dishes, even unable to speak Swedish? Think about it. Either, comments are allowed/not allowed or edited here. By the way, sometimes I don’t have time to edit esp when I have just been to vasa and I just approve stuff lol. Have a nice evening!
Njoro what unity do you want? and in terms of asking for real names on KSB comments, I think you are living in another world.this will not happen.
Oh njoro,kweli una ndoto ya hali ya juu.endelea hivyo hivyo
Njoro ur idea for unity is ok but how do u plan to do it?why did you mix the matter of the confessed killer and Mwaosh here?u r the one fueling the raging comments.
Keep appealing njoro.always good tryin’ lakini gumu sana kuwaunganisha Wakenya
Look how Kenyans are dirty collectively from the Man/woman in the streets to President >It has been a gripping few weeks during which Kenyans watched their dirty political linen laid out for the entire world to see at The Hague.
Among those watching was the political class, whose future in next year’s elections is intertwined with those of the six suspects now awaiting the outcome of the just ended confirmation of charges hearings. Political careers on both sides of the divide will rise or fall based on the ruling the judges make in the next three months.
The ‘Ocampo six’. Defence lawyers made their final submissions on Wednesday. Photo Standard
njoro, nenda zako wewe! you of all the pple!! i have no words bwana! what unity are you talking about? do you think wakekenya here can worship your fake kajora? we know you bwana, your love to the kikuyus are known, leta kitu kigine kipya juuu we all know, wewe ni kikuyu, mwaura damu. you may try to defend the mdomo kaya, but what you dont understand is that 99% of kenyans here dont like liers!! pple who go to their own village and lie ati ni kajora here in sweden! njoro before you defend this fake kajora telll kenyans the trueth. is mwaura a kajora or not? kama you know the answer and you are protecting him just bcoz ni gema, then you are sick!! how can we trust you njoro? when you cant even tell us that the man is fake!! tell watu wote wakwenu thika ukweli ati mwaura ni fake and fake kabisa b4 talking of unity. we are all united ofcourse kila mtu ana rafiki zake. mimi siwezi kuwa na watu kama wewe njoro na mwaura, you pple mumeozaaaaaaaaa kabiiiiiiisaaaaaaah.
Jumpstart #27: you have now moved to the extreme by branding a section of commentators as failures. Who the hell do you think you are? How many of us who wash wazee or do dishes at McDonalds do you feed, cloth and accommodate to claim we have achieved nothing in this country? What have you achieved? Write back stating your name and life successes. You dare others to write their names yet you use a handle to insult them. Why didn’t you use your real name? Be honest, how many Kenyans beg for handouts at your doorstep?
Taking further education whether in tuition-free Sweden, is a personal choice; it is not compulsory, so don’t drum it on us. Profiling commentators then asking Osewe to be stricter with them, is purely an insult to him who owns KSB. He is not stupid to let your so-called failures comment.
By the way, you must be a big fool to not know how to spell the words you used to categorize your failures. You wrote “intergation” which should be integration; “interprate” which should be interpret; and “rost”, which should read roast, among others. Remove that huge log in your eye before you mention that in another’s eye.
It is you who is a failure for labeling others. Your attack has shred into pieces all the good you wrote about Njoro. Read your garbage again when sober and you will know you are the fool so far. Mjinga wewe!
@jumpstart: Take your jumpstart cable and recharge your brain because what you wrote signifies how stupid you are. I have no words to explain the kind of failure you reflect in your comment.
Thanks Osewe for putting it straight to Mjinga Jumpstart. There was no direct insult or abusive language in any comment until he entered with his oozing fecal matter of comment. No one should take the commentator seriously since he/she mirrors all the trash used to describe others.
jumpstart, what one does for a living in Sweden is not your business. Without us, McDonalds and wazee will still be cleaned. Kwa hivyo acha kutusi wale ambao wanatafuta riziki kujisaidia. Umewasaidia kwa njia gani hao unaowataja kama walioshindwa ama wale hawajafaulu maishani humu nchini?
Do you seriously believe that those you call failures simply spend their free time gossiping and writing negative things at KSB? I guess things are not working in your life that is why you cannot write a proper comment bila matusi.
@jumpstart, keep off the hard alcohol and drugs, so that when you comment at KSB you are clear minded and can spell properly.
jumpstart #27, you must be new at KSB because opinions here are as diverse as they come. That is why Osewe moderates and passes what he feels is appropriate. In this case you should have stated your views without calling others failures.
The topic has now shifted to you because of your pumbavu comment. Elimu ya ngumbaru is free of fees in Sweden, so please join it to broaden your general knowledge. Adult education does wonders to your type and might help your integration (intergation according to you) processes.
Njoro since this is not a new idea from you, you should have restricted your piece to unity and why it’s important, instead of including matters on Mwaura and the baby-killer that divert the minds of commentators.
To jumpstart: you are the biggest failure here.
#34: kweli umemtoa nyoka Njoro pangoni. Zidi kutuelezea mambo yake.
Jump start you must be suffering from infriolity complex.Why do you call other failures >Kwani Unatulisha?Do you feed us? Kwani Sweden ni Kwa Mamako?
Ati Kenyans in Sweden are Collective failures >You must be suffering from Schizopreni!
Hapa Sweden kweli kuna Machizi kama wewe. Please mr /mrs Jumpstart start Jumping towards (Becoberga Mental-Sjukhus.before you start plockering Makaratasi Mjini Stor-Stockholm:
Njoro wrote this because of KSB commentators’ reaction towards Nyambu (the confessed killer) and the fake councilor and his homeboy, Mwaura. This is all for GEMA to “help our people”, à la Uhuru Kenyatta’s PEV contribution.
Njoro, you should not use the lame excuse of Wakenya hukuwezana nao that is why you shut down your blog. You simply lost the steam after realizing that Osewe is larger than life and wears the most spfisticated anti-scud missile protective gear, so it did not matter how much dirt you smeared on him, he kept spinning digital essays after digital essays in many areas concerning Wakenya. You were part of the blog wars lifting material from Osewe’s blog then opening up for his perceived enemies to attack him using anonymous names. Osewe is currently civil enough not to unearth such materials that lie embedded in KSB vaults waiting for the right moment of use.
It is therefore hypocritical of you to call for unity when you have no record of that in Stockholm, plus allowed people to comment anonymously on your former blog. As for patting your own back for getting Osewe to allow comments, you better recollect the language you used then. It was far from brotherly, so you shouldn’t go there.
In some of your entries in the days of “My Expression” or “Inside Njoro’s Head”, I had the feeling you were a brother-in-Christ but some of the comments on you at KSB have left me doubtful.
Maybe in your next piece you will explain what kind of unity you wish for Wakenya.
Two queries to Njoro: (1) why do you want unity among Kenyans. (2) Why do you want commentators to list their personal data at KSB?
To jumpstart #27, try to bite your arse and when you have succeeded, you will learn to respect those that do dishes and take care of wazee. As adviced by others, cut down on your Yokozuna brew consumption or whatever you smoke that chokes your brain functions. Pumbavu mkubwa wewe.
I am now even more encouraged. The positive comments from those who saw a good initiative for what it is has shown me that I don’t totally live in a dream land. The others were expected. I did not write with the intention of I being the one to unite Kenyans. But I would like to be part of that if it happened to become a reality.
Organising might not be my good side otherwise I could have brought Kenyans together like yesterday. That I never joined former Kenyan organisations like KESOFO, which has since been buried, is only because they never lived long enough. I was a supporter and the intention to join was always there. What happened to such organisations can only be told by those who were responsible at the time of their demise.
What kind of unity am I talking about? Very much like what other nationalities have here in Sweden. How about Kenyanska Förening. An association with the aim of representing Kenyans in Sweden at different levels. One that can rise to the occasion when individual members find themselves in difficulty situations. Not very much different from what others before might have been but one with people ready to make an extra effort to go the extra mile.
Am not trying to force anyone into anything so those against need not worry. This is nothing more than a humble dream, a wish.
How Osewe runs KSB is his business, thank you for the space. I have not at any time asked for your personal data at KSB.
Njoro, haven’t you contradicted yourself in comment #46, ending: “I have not at any time asked for your personal data at KSB”, while your main article supported the idea of commentators’ registration? See:
“Still, I would prefer to face my enemy head on. Kikulacho kii nguoni mwako! That in mind, the argument that commentators should register at the KSB headquarters was a positive implication from those who care about who we are. There should thus be no need of being anonymous and no fear to challenge.”
Mwaura’s request for registration which you supported, included real names, email address and phone numbers, which are part of personal data.
hebu mwangalieni sasa huyu njoro!! what a contradition!! if you cant stick to what you said, kweli wewe ni kigeugeu. sasa unalete story zingine y? stick to the point. your msg was unity au sio? but sisi tunakueza ya kwamba, unity begins at home, e.g family. kama mtu hawezi hata kuishi na mama mtoto wake! atawezaje kuwaunganisha wakenya? ukitaka kuwa kiongozi wa kuwaunganisha wakenya ni lazima utuonyeshe kwaba wewe ni kiongozi wa nyumba yako! lakini kama hukuweza, na hadi waleo haujaweza, sisi hatuna budi wala kukuchekelea tu hehehehehehehe. piwa mkebe moja tena halafu leta ndoto nyigine coz hii twaijua, wewe+mwaura=gema. butdoisay
If you take me as an independent person, having observed our Kenyan community for the few months i have been here, with zero intention to settle here, i will say that the Kenyan community here is very very divided. Young people who are joining the community in Sweden have their noses up in the air. The old guards know how to help but they don’t have a platform to do that because you are divided “badly”. God be with you, as the economies of the world change.
Tak
#48: lol! umenipa kicheko cha mwaka ulivochangia swala la muungani kwa maoni ya Njoro. Kumbe haishi na mama wa huyo mtoto wake? Hebu zidi kutupa habari kamili. Njoro, charity begins at home. You are on the path of creating the New Generation GEMA Stockholm Branch. Hatuko nawe kamwe. Dream on!
Njoro wa wambui,cant u be ashame ov urself,writing here eti wakenya wa unite plz cant u think about ur future, kwanza eti u also want ur baby to follow ur step,which ones i pity u my broda oooo #48 thats true kwanza he could show us na kwake then we follow,mkeo alikushida,wegine wamekushida think thrice.shidwe pepo nyeusi
If you rattle THE JUMPSTARTERS prepare to be bitten- this topic wasnt about the jumpstart family, my wrong spellings is to put non starters like Makena to task he/she can find something to talk about, i have only been in sweden for 2years BUT all i have learnt is that being close to people like makena is the worst thing coz their aim is to drag other new commers to the deep mud/sand they are drowning in. Good luck Makena but i am not drowning with you.
How can a wife batterer (mpiga mke) lead Kenya-Stockholmers in a call for unity? Wakenya wenzangu huyu mwana ndondi hawezi kuongoza Wakenya kwa hali ya kushirikiana.
I dont understand why pple have to battle this guy just coz he aint together with the daughters Mum. Relationships are hard and everyone with a brain knows it. Kenyan pple are just so good in finding ways to put others down. GROW UP PEOPLE.
Kumbe this ka njoro is even a wife batterer?, I hate him so much right now! no wonder kwake kumemshinda! eeish ushindwe wewe.
Njoro tutafufuwa storos za the real you.Kigeugeu Gema man who has nothing to offer non-kyuks. mpiga mama mtoto wako unadhani utaongoza wengine?go beat a punching bag sio wanawake.
Jumpstart and your weird Adams family have nothing to offer – you losers!
that smooth smile of Njoro carries bitter anger and violence which we know he used on the mother of his daughter by beating her senseless.how then can he unite Kenyans when he could not keep the mother of his daughter?i agree with commentators #48 and #51 that Njoro needs to put his own house in order before asking the Kenyans to unite.
man njoro alinyeshea mama wa mtoto wake na mangumi na mateke mbele ya wasee juu alishikwa ameweka demu mwengine kwa laps zake anapapasa.keroro ilijaa ndani ya hiyo keja walikuwa hepi.msichana wake hapo juu kwa picha aliwachwa anazunguka kwa mikebe za keroro.mama mtoi alitokea akajam sana juu walikuwa wanajaribu comeback.basi njoro akamvamia mama mtoto wake kwa makofi na ngumi vibaya mpaka masanse wakaitwa.jamaa alikaa ndani ya Kamiti masaa kadhaa.mwishowe walipart ways na mama mtoto.jamaa anaangaika mikebe tu siku hizi.aliacha hata kuandika kwa blog yake juu steam zilikwisha.mama ameenda.njoro hawezi ongoza wakenya.we are better off the way we are.period!
Njoro ameandika eti Wakenya walimuweza ndipo akafunga blog yake.this is a man breaking apart juu his love life is always in tatters.let him control that side of maisha yake kwanza b4 calling for unity.how can a cracked up soul redeem others?
unity my black ass njoro. pepo mbaya wewe mpiga mkeo.
Njoro ni kigeugeu tu no one takes him seriously apart from the few Gema loyalists supporting his twisted thots.
Njoro good luck with your upcoming Gema union, hidden under the cover of a Kenyansk Förening.hata hitler alianza na homeboys wake.
Common Wakenya Njoro has a great idea. We all support him only that he should put his home in order.In Kenya we believe leadership begins from the family.
jumpstart 2 years in Sweden and u still behave like a village monkey. in 30 years you will be like an orangotung and worse than those u insult.
Njoro did u finish your counselling to keep off kupiga mama mtoto wako? Mjamaa aliingilia counsellor wake with a love affair only to end up losing his mama mtoto.he needs anger management coz the way alipiga mama mtoto, tells u this is somebody who cannot unite Wakenya.
jumpstart zidi kula mavi yako
Njoro’s supported Mwaura’s idea of getting commentators to register at KSB yet in his reply #46, he denid it. Kweli mjamaa huyu kigeugeu kabisa.how can a chameleon unite Wakenya? Mnyama kasoro mkiya!
kusema kweli hakuna yeyote hapa stockholm ambaye hamjui huyu bingwa wa kuchapa mama mtoto wake! grow up njoro and wacha ugeshagi mwingi. kwani unafiri sisi tumesahau ulivyo mtendea mama mtoto? si ujiunge na yeye kwanza kabla ya kututaka sisi wengine tuungane? tabia zako za kutumia wasichana huku inajulikana lakini sisi wengine hatuseme. wacha zako, endelea kumsifu mwaura wa thika na wachana na k.s.b. sisi ni k.s.b damu ksb juuuuu juuuu
Below is Osewe’s version from the earlier piece on Mwaura, to let you know how Njoro used to react because the comments section at KSB was not open.
“For the first two years after KSB was set up, the comment section was fundamentally closed to the public because of fears that if it was opened, it would be abused by Kenyans who would use the comment facility to get to their enemies anonymously. For the period when the comment section remained closed, there was constant pressure from a cross section of Kenyans who thought that the continued close down of the comments section was undemocratic.
At that time, Mr. Njoro was running a blog with comments open and he went ahead to attack me for keeping comments closed, even stating that by so doing, I had turned into a “dictator” who had the first and final word about everything that was published at KSB.”
Njoro had then shifted gears to fight Osewe who kept doing his thing at KSB. Njoro lost it and wrapped up his blog. He should therefore not blame Wakenya as he claimed in the above article. Instead of focusing on his poems and other Gema related stories, he turned to fight the dynamic Osewe, who saw him as a fly zooming around his teacup. He simply blew him off and Njoro has remained on the sidelines of the blogosphere.
Enemies are always waiting for someones story to appear on KSB so that they can attack negatively.Why will people not fear KSB.The enemies are cowards because they cant face one and say exactly what they are writing here.
no. 54 you just said it all.Ya kale yameshapita, thats what happened, am sure njoro regrets battering the x. people changes, and no one is perfect.
And to those who enjoy commenting negatively, wakati wenu utafika.Today its njoro ,tomorrow someone else.then you also will taste your own medicine from your enemies.
KSB: Mwenda, and this tendency is what worries us here at KSB. We rarely mention names especially on negative stories but somehow, commentators usually find a way of “pinning IDs” on the main characters before the firing squad takes over. Freedom of speech can be used constructively or destructively. What we do here is to provide it as long as the law is not being broken.
mmmh malaya mkubwa wa skogås cant u even be ashame ukisema watu wa unite,si kwanza u go shule usomee how to treat madame,fala tu wewe unawachange madame ka chupi chunga baba kuna kisonono ukisononea ndani,kaka weee badilisha mwenedo wako,kuwa mwanaume kamili wacha kulegalega to ovyo,simama wima ndio tukufwate,eeeeeeh ba weeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
wewe wacha domo kubwa. If u cant cope with women how are you going to unity Kenyans. First u r looking for a forum whereby u r just after wanawake. Can u not get u own mwanmke instead of taking someone who has not been with another person who u call is ur friend wewe ni fake ile kubwa sana
You are defnding Mwaura and you tried with PASTOR xxxxxxx to topple him from Narc Kenya chairmanship but failed. You are always a puppet of other pple and even now u have been send by the same pple who always gather at the koloni drinking untill early hrs in the morning. Is it there we are going to meet coz even Pastor xxxxxxx who preaches that we drink water…. How can u call for untiy when u can not untiy at home just keep quit and do u own business. Wacha domo kubwa
njoro,it seems like he got some angry pple crying for his blood,well he’s not alone all thats is important in his life am sure is his relationship wit his daughter,period!! haters can all go to hell…
Hello Wakenya ,
Its so sad that when as a’Nation’ ,we are being crippled from all sides ,be they economic ,vicious pirates ,drug peddlers,corrupt politicians,and a very unruly beaurocracy those of us who have the opportunity to be rekindling the lost hope are still immersed in simplistic thought.
What become of us as a people who ,once were the envy of others.Its not correct to fight hopeless virtual battles .Lets get going and decide whether Kenya as a viable entity is for all ‘Kenyans’ or we have to face the obvious reality that the nation will not survive the onslaught. As me Otieno Odera,l will for ever subscribe to a call for unity ,only when its viable.At present l see no chance of that happening in Stockholm , unless we shed of the percieved sense of having arrived.The only way to go is to devolve and we self govern from our bases,unite from the centre where its all about community.Maybe one day we can hold a public forum where all those who cannot put a name to their commentaries can at least be seen in public ,then l believe that Kenyans would have taken a step to being united .We should be able to identify when and where to utter some sentiments.As always ,l will be steadfast in trying to be a Kenyan,however it remains to be achieved unless as a group of highly motivated demographic that will be an illusion.
Ean Wuod Luo
Njoro,wacha waseme mwisho watalala just be yourself sir God ndio ataku-judge not binadamu
Where was this call all a long?This are the same people who have been fueling the topic and now they are coming out as neutral.mushindwe ma shetani ninyi.
Njoro, I hope you can again pat yourself on the shoulder for getting over 70 comments on your idea of unity in Kenya-Stockholm. Apply for a Kenyansk Förening because you have enough followers. Go for it GEMA boy!
comment #51 beginning with Njoro wa Wambui….then mambo of beating severely mama mtoto wake… is the best because it touches the true character of this man from those who know him. Ashindwe kabisa, pepp baya huyu.
njoro has been called wife batterer plus cassanova meaning he has no morals to lead Wakenya. Asafishe uchafu wake kwanza.
Roho juu Njoro wacha mahaters watlk all they want coz thea the worst characters in thea own life`s. Natulenge juu.
yaani bado jamaa are discussing Njoro?´he’s a done case.mpiga wanawake hawezi kuwaunganisha Wakenya.let him continue cheating wanawake na kupiga wanaume ambao wanachukuwa hao wanawake wanaomtoroka – ma rivals wake.lakini uniting Kenyans? that is out.He can lead in his Gema village,not here where tumejuwa vituko vyake.
Greetings all fellow kenyans both home and abroad… This is particularly addressed to The motley crew from our motherland. You know yourselves. Njoros/Osewes and 78+ commentators. Bickering is chic if, and only if, your immediate satisfaction is vendetta. But I know my countryfolks better; they are deeper, more engaged, willing and able to execute good. So why? And again why this fingerpointing that’s leading nowhere in the midst of a grave tragedy that has befallen us? The way I see it; She was not herself at the time. All explanations can be given here. Counter arguments can be made. But I don’t know any mother who can do that ‘normally’. So lets go from there. There is a silver lining though in the fact that the case has resulted in the reviviscency of the age old debate about our socio-economic coherency in Europe/America/wherever-you are. We’ve lost, at about the same time, as citizens of the earth first and foremost, some of the most beautiful minds to emerge in the 20th Century: Steve jobbs (if you consider how many ‘jobs’ he has created in Africa/world and Wangari Maathai… an icon of pure technocracy in an age lacking in the simplest administrative or managerial efficiency! Not that we don’t have them but the character worship that is propagated now makes it virtually impossible for true leaders to govern or thrive in an African ‘Setting’. You may argue that our chiefs of old were also worshipped. True to some extent. But they had to sacrifice so much for the community that their reverence was almost proportional to their adoration.
But what exactly do I mean by ‘character worship’? Well some food for thought.. When you refer to anybody who as a ‘mheshimiwa’ or ‘distinguished guest’ you are actively engaging in this dangerous practice. Essentially, you are saying ‘ higher than the average’ without justification. Bigger is NOT better. ‘Always present’ doesn’t constitute commitment. Trust me! Neither is richer smarter. And so on and so forth. We should know that by now, having spent a few cold winters here. But don’t get me wrong. There will ALWAYS BE GREATER OR LESSER PERSONS THAN YOURSELVE. But in the context of administration and the rule of law, and gumption, service should be the underlying factor for respect.
I finish off my comment without mentioning names but the warring factions should take stock of the task that need addressing.. One respectable member is calling for unity…. Others are asking what kind of unity he means… How crazy can that be… Unity has no colour or nuance… it is and still will be forever the apex of all human achievements. Kudos to that brother… Also to the creator of this blogg, I give my utmost support and hope we can be more positive to ‘buy kenyan’ sometimes even if it may not be in our menu… Swedes taught me that. They love Swedish… Whether it sucks or not! This brother has given you people a forum… now build the fortress! Just fyi there are so many “ideela föreningar” (voluntary/social organizations) in Stockholm taking advantage of a generous budget allocation last fiscal year… It’s a challenge we have so very few Kenyan/East African functional… wake up brothers and sisters… Visit your local library and don’t get back to me asking me why I have’nt formed one.. Refer to point number 2 in my comments.
My prayers and sympathies goes to the bereaved family and friends.. and of course to the whole nation for enduring such a shock. >Michael Ngunjiri Anthony wa Ngugi
Njoro take care of ur daughter and keep off the empty dream of uniting Kenyans.
good idea but clean up yua character Njorp.hiyo beating mama mtoto is the worst you are connected with plus your Gema man who was ur rival – the one who took over the other woman whom you were a toyboy to.ni mbaya and is one of the worst things for somebody who wants to lead in uniting Kenyans.How do you think other women think of you?No respect at all kupiga mwanamke na kuzidi you are still a young man.Fy FAN!!
too much alcohol, frustrations,broken love=beating mama mtoto
Comment nr.59.Sanke every story has two sides,u were not in their relationship to be able to know exactly what has been going on.Wacha kuingilie relationship za watu.Umeandika njoro alishikwa na demu na mama mtoi, alijam juu walikuwa wanajaribu comeback. but Sanke haujatuambia vile huyu mama mtoi pia anabadirisha wanaume kama nguo.May b njoro was trying to revenge.mama mtoi is not holy either so wacha zako.
Njoro don’t u know how to start a welfare organization? You don’t have to spend so much time writing yet you know so well that only a few Kenyans will join your call for unity. Get a few interested people and do it. no use broadcasting at KSB.